There are fairies at the bottom of my garden!

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  1. Thomas

    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    As usual, you take the sensible and render it silly by pushing it to the extreme.
     
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    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Sorry ... but ... surely ...

    If we pursue your line of reasoning to its logical conclusion, then we take nothing anyone offers us, on the basis it can't be trusted?

    Our own thoughts and ideas can't be trusted, either?

    Therefore nothing can be trusted? Any thoughtful endeavour is made waste?

    Faith in anything is undermined, because faith itself is undermined. Knowledge is undermined by the same principle, because we can have no faith in what we know.

    "Without you, I am my own guide to the brink of perdition."
    Augustine (AD354-430), Confessions 4.1.

    Any faith, it seems to me asserts two things:
    I must trust in myself;
    I must trust in that which is greater than myself.

    As someone once observed, if we questioned everything, we'd be too afraid to get out of bed in the morning. Too afraid even to open our eyes ... there may well be monsters under the bed.
     
  3. voiceofwood

    voiceofwood Interfaith Forums

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    Actually it would be far, far worse than you contemplate; if indeed our memories are truly lack any fidelity then language becomes meaningless, similarly mathematics, bridges collapse and planes fall from the sky, even the written word is meaningless because we no longer remember what it means or how to interpret it. We are no longer able to distinguish what are objects and what are not since object permanence is lost. Even our concept of self as a being with a future and past is lost
     
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    wil UNeyeR1

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    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    wil UNeyeR1

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    How pray tell are scientific articles indicating how our memory works negative.

    Doesn't the knowledge assist us in being better people, in understanding why when ten of us witness an event that we have ten different memories of that event...

    Or when as my daughter has said....there are events that she's heard the stories from so many people...in her memory she was actually there...the memory is fuzzy...but she can't distinguish the stories from her life.

    This is negative? Or would it not help in discussions with others?
     
  7. Frrostedman

    Frrostedman Keepin' it cool

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    It would be a total contradiction of logic. By you just having a single thought, logically proves your existence. You may not exist in the capacity you think. Maybe you are just a brain, kept in a jar of fluids, sitting on a chair.. imagining all of this. But even then, you exist.
     
  8. Quirkybird

    Quirkybird Granny to five

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    Got it in one!:D:D
     

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