Consistency

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  1. Hermes

    Hermes Zos Kia Cultus

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    Would you say to a phenomena i.e. a magical feat to be consistent. i.e. work all the time? If it is not repeatable all the time, at will then it is perhaps not magic? It is then your subjective reality that may change from time to time?
    Or coincidence?
    Many today's practitioners claim to be magicians but in fact they can do no more magic then wishful thinking....
     
  2. Devils' Advocate

    Devils' Advocate Well-Known Member

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    Most modern magicians are masters at distraction and manipulation. Those are negative sounding words, but they do not have to be. It all depends on the purpose, and use of those techniques, of the magician.

    As for being able to do something repeatable all the time, that they call science! :)
     
  3. wil

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    If it doesn't work all the time.... we are talking anecdotal or coincidence are we not?
     
  4. Hermes

    Hermes Zos Kia Cultus

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    Nowadays people call "the law attraction" magic. Well it is not. It maybe part of a while magical suite but there is a lot more. I would say a true magician can perform something at will in the great majority of the time. 75-99%...

    I have not met anyone in person who can do "stuff".
     
  5. Rev. Christopher

    Rev. Christopher Psychonaut Extrordinaire

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    You guys should check out the book Words of Power by Michael Kelly. The Second half of that book talks in great detail about how to manipulate people the proper Lesser Black Magic style. :p
     
  6. sixohhseven

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    Hello!
    I'd like to contribute by quoting 'Chela'-

    "Our society has degenerated the word "magic."

    Magic is nothing more than directed will.

    Remember the tree Magi that visited Jesus. They were Magi, Magicians (in the real sense). A magi is a priest. The true priest is a magician. The true craft of magic is the sacred acts of preisthood.

    The true magician is the not the terrestrial person, but the Father in Heaven. Thus, Jesus said, "THY WILL BE DONE."

    Thy = God's"
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    My reply-
    So Magic is directed willpower, and adding, that which is being directed is energy..
    I'd say that, consistency would depend upon the amount of energy one has available to direct depending upon their level of awakening.
    In the case of Jesus whom was in direct, complete union with Christic forces and fully awakened, I'd assume that his energy was unlimited.

    I think your answer is subjective to that beings level of awakening, or liberation from the ego (self).
     
  7. wil

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    Note... This is magick, with a k...
     
  8. sixohhseven

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    What's the difference?
     
  9. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    There are stage and party magicians doing a show, and then there are folks casting spells to affect reality.... Wiki says.... Magick, in the context of Aleister Crowley's Thelema, is a term used to show and differentiate the occult from performance magic and is defined as "the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will", including both "mundane" acts of will as well as ritual magic.
     
  10. bhaktajan

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    Imo I see the switching on and off of a light fixture switch as Magic.

    Oh yes, when you know how the trick works one loses the magic-ness.

    How do we define magic versus taken-for granted technological advances.

    Next time we are on an aeroplane we can ponder the 10,000 mechanisms operating in sync and how one broken link in the chain can snare up the whole show.
     

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