Teaching the concept of "Spiritual multilingualism" to children

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  1. fschmidt

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    It is the usual life cycle of a civilization. A civilization rises when it has a sound religion. This causes a rise in science, literature, etc. But also a rise in wealth and in skepticism. And this undermines the religion that made the civilization rise in the first place, which causes decadence and then decline. In the decline, religions goes first, then morality, then the arts, then science, then wealth, and finally military power which allows it to be conquered. We are quite far along in this sequence.
     
  2. wil

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    I agree...that is as it should be....
    Can you tell me which civilizations have gone through what you describe?
     
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    I'm in a minority, a Londoner born and bred.

    I think that's probably the same the world over. When my kids went to uni, they were horrified at the casual racism of their peers who grew up in a more monoculture environment.

    Later, it changes, when they begin to seek their own identities. Then it's important that cultural diversity be embraced, even though (apparently) we're wired to think of 'them and us'.
     
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    I don't see how this applies....what religion allowed the current civilization to rise?
     
  5. fschmidt

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    Calvinistic Protestantism
     
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    Really? How so?
     
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    wil UNeyeR1

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    so which civilizations grew? Europe? America? Who is dying, who will be overrun militarily?
     
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    In the current civilization, it was the Protestant countries of Europe that grew. The British Empire (including America) was the most successful because Puritanism was the best form of Protestantism. Today it is exactly these cultures that are in most rapid decline. They are far beyond the point of no return and will certainly die.
     
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    while I do think the fall of Christianity is inevitable in the long run (mostly due to what I have read in the Quran) I'm not sure I agree that it will be of its own doing, a loss of principles as a whole, many religions have gone through rebirths over the years in which they are strengthened more than they were originally. Though the moral aspects of Christianity, seem to have decended way low, there is nothing stopping it from returning.
     
  10. Devils' Advocate

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    This is a tough one. I understand, and even agree to an extent, that making religious mashed potatoes out of different theologies has genuine flaws. At the same time, the need for some form of multicultural look at religions is critically needed if we as a species are ever going to get out of the religious tribal mentality, with all the ills that follow.

    It's a fine line and it does need to be drawn somewhere, somehow. Wish I had a solution that made sense, but I don't.
     
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    This statement, on the surface of it, makes no sense to me. Someone who translates an original text is automatically golden? And someone who writes about ancient texts are not? All or nothing philosophies are never comfortable for me. What guarantees can you give that original translations are in any way faithful to the intent of the original? I've seen too many translations from folks with agendas to accept that.
     
  12. wil

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    I don't consider the loss of Christianity or any religion to indicate the fall of civilization.... we don't need to be religious to be civilized....

    I believe it could be the very loss of religion that eventually evolves this civilization to a level that is actually civil.
     
  13. Devils' Advocate

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    All civilizations begin, many advance to 'greatness' on the world stage, and all eventually fall. Religion can be a contributing factor in any portion of the process, as can any number of other factors. It is hardly the single one important factor in the process.
     
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    I look at our civilization to be pretty global now... The American Empire was created by breaking away from Europe....and then helping Europe maintain through the rise and fall of the third reich... But now with trade treaties and defense treaties...as religions are beginning to wain we are becoming more global...I just can't follow this to a conclusion that our entire global civilization will collapse... and if it does...I live in fear of the religion that reignites it again
     

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