Whats Your Religion? (An Interfaith Dialogue)

Discussion in 'Comparative Studies' started by Syam, Jun 5, 2016.

  1. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2005
    Messages:
    6,635
    Likes Received:
    110
    I am a Western Mahayana Buddhist (Zen) and member of the above mentioned Mercuræn Order.
    The Mercuræn idea that we are fallen Lucifers nicely parallels the Buddhist idea of unawakened Bodhisattvas. The separation of our consciousness from the objective universe parallels the Buddhist practice of anatta--this objective thing is not my Self, that objective thing is not my Self. I use the Buddhist apophatic approach to self, as nibbana is beyond concepts. Becoming a Mercuræn Luciferian has really helped me to understand Buddhism better, as well as providing many additional methods I haven't found within Buddhism.
    Regarding the other thoughts presented within our order--trying to understand other points of view will often lead to unexpected insights--even if you don't entirely agree with the other idea presented.
    Regarding the problems faced within this practice--I haven't had any problem from other Buddhists at all. I originally got a lot of flack from other members of my order due to misunderstanding and outright misrepresentation of Buddhism, but that has improved. I've really made a lot of progress, and am still learning.
     
    StevePame and A Cup Of Tea like this.
  2. Nasruddin

    Nasruddin Active Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2016
    Messages:
    166
    Likes Received:
    80
    Alan Watts used to say that once one learns that a religion is unnecessary, it's fun to have one.
     
    Francis Earl and seattlegal like this.
  3. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2005
    Messages:
    21,749
    Likes Received:
    1,921
    Nontheistic Panentheist Universal Unitic...
    New
    Topics of discussion:
    -What are the fundamental beliefs in your religion?

    listen...encourage people to think...don't tell them what to think.


    -What are the fundamental doctrines of your religion?

    attempt to treat others as they'd like to be treated.

    -What are the main ritual and rites?

    affirmations, denials, and letting go

    -What/Who are the authorities of your religion?

    Jesus, Buddha, Mohamed, and many others...

    -How do you regard the other sects/thoughts in your religion?

    with wonder...

    -What are the problems faced in practicing your religion?

    orthodoxy which deems us blasphemers...
     
    StevePame likes this.
  4. Senthil

    Senthil Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2010
    Messages:
    524
    Likes Received:
    79
    religion ... Hindu, Saivite, monistic Saiva Siddhanta, Nandinatha sampradaya, Kailasa parampara
    1) Karma, reincarnation, divinity within all, God is formless, and with form
    2) same as 1 I guess
    3) puja, japa, 16 samskaras
    4) individual heads of sampradayas (esoteric schools)
    5) love them all, love the diversity, appreciate differences
    6) no problems, maybe some challenges, harder where no other Hindus exist, or few exist
     
    StevePame likes this.
  5. Thomas

    Thomas Administrator Admin

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2003
    Messages:
    11,524
    Likes Received:
    2,017
    God is One.

    Love God. Love your neighbour.

    The Seven Sacraments. Primarily Baptism and the Eucharist.

    God. Scripture. Tradition.

    Benignly.

    Prejudice.
     
  6. Ahanu

    Ahanu Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2007
    Messages:
    1,480
    Likes Received:
    221
    And what are these practices and disciplines that "separate our consciousness from the objective universe allowing us to experience our higher Self?"

    Like Neo in the Matrix stopping bullets with his mind? :) If so, I like the idea.
     
  7. Ahanu

    Ahanu Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2007
    Messages:
    1,480
    Likes Received:
    221
    I just did a quick search. Why can't I find the Mercuræn Order online? Any websites you can suggest for learning more about this?
     
  8. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2005
    Messages:
    6,635
    Likes Received:
    110
  9. Devils' Advocate

    Devils' Advocate Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2014
    Messages:
    2,086
    Likes Received:
    380
    Completely, totally absopositively off topic. Seattle, the reason cows say Mu is because they originated on that lost continent. Thought everybody knew that.
     
  10. Nasruddin

    Nasruddin Active Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2016
    Messages:
    166
    Likes Received:
    80
    I practice Buddhism, and I suppose that would make me a Buddhist, but I'm not so sure that's accurate. It isn't as if I believe in Buddhism, and disbelieve in everything else. I find that the practice of mindfulness, the eightfold path, understanding how I am creating my own suffering, these things help me get by in life. Funny that as I get older, I can understand Zen from reading the Bible, and the Sutras remind me of my early Christian studies. I'm not a fan of mixing up religions into a syncretic mishmash, but it isn't hard to see where the fingers are pointing. I think the biggest difficulty in practicing is remaining non-judgmental of my experience and not pushing things away. In meditation, there can be great peace, but also great turmoil. Many inner battles are fought during meditation time! The peace, for me, comes when I realize the deeper inner truths, the simple secrets that are right in front of me, but I cannot see, because "I" am telling myself a different story.
     
  11. arthra

    arthra Baha'i

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2003
    Messages:
    3,661
    Likes Received:
    138
    I just noticed this thread so will respond..

    Baha'is believe in God and that He has sent Prophets and Manifestations down through the ages for the benefit of humanity...
    Baha'is accept the Divine origin of the major religions.

    Fundamental doctrines of Baha'is include the oneness of God and the oneness of humanity in this day. We believe prejudice of race, class, religion should be eliminated; Baha'is pray daily facing the Qiblih in the Holy Land (Israel) and fast one Baha'i month a year.. if possible we make pilgrimage to the Holy Land.

    Baha'is accept the revealed Writings of Baha'u'llah and turn to the Universal House of Justice in Haifa for guidance.
    Baha'is face persecution in Iran where Baha'is can be imprisoned or oppressed for their beliefs... there are occasional instances of persecution in other countries.
     
  12. Craz

    Craz Active Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2013
    Messages:
    211
    Likes Received:
    76
    -What are the fundamental beliefs in your religion?
    Truth permeates everything and can be known.

    -What are the fundamental doctrines of your religion?
    Aspire to be aware of said Truth in all aspects of your life.

    -What are the main ritual and rites?
    If the above two points are followed,then every action becomes a ritual.


    -What/Who are the authorities of your religion?
    My own experiences.

    -How do you regard the other sects/thoughts in your religion?
    No sects. ...we are British!(..that's a joke btw)

    -What are the problems faced in practicing your religion?
    None.
     
  13. Wibble

    Wibble New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2016
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    0
    I am a Buddhist and I will jump on any fake Buddha quotes in a firm but compassionate way. ;)
     
  14. Wibble

    Wibble New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2016
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    0
    By "major religions" I assume you mean the Abrahamic ones?
     
  15. Nasruddin

    Nasruddin Active Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2016
    Messages:
    166
    Likes Received:
    80
    I think I remember that quote... ;)
     

Share This Page