What denomination or sect are you?

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  1. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    Lol, as long as the definition of God is just as ambiguous.
     
  2. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Of course it's ambiguous. Man can't limit God to their scriptures. But abiogenesis is only the mechanism, incredible though the mechanism is.

    The universe has a spiritual origin.

    It's nice to be told to stay at home. It takes away all the need to think and make our own decisions. It makes us all the same. Can't go there. Can't do that. By order.
     
  3. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    Man can't limit science to their scriptures.
     
  4. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Of course I know that. There are people who call down terrible curses and punishments upon unbelievers who do not adhere to their own book. There are people who think they have their own God club.

    It's easy: wear the uniform, follow orders, march in step, repeat the words -- exclude those who do not believe the precise details of what you believe.

    But there are also very many people who believe in God who know they are allowed to ask questions, and who accept that science makes nonsense of many scriptural passages.

    However abiogenesis only demonstrates the mechanism. It does nothing to disprove God. Nor does the big bang. And what I'm saying is that the Bible, at least, does not dispute that the universe came into existence in a single instant from nothing, and then developed -- or that life came into existence from 'dust' or whatever anyone likes to call it?
     
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  5. KnowSelf

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    Are denominations and sects only classified as religion?

    Are there denominations and sect not associated with religion?
     
  6. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    Money comes in denominations and can be spent for sects...if you ain't blessed with the required humour...
     
  7. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    But seriously, it think it can be divisions/sections of other things, but hear on I/0 I was asking of religions.

    As it is the most common denominator.
     
  8. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    'Sect' sounds like a derivation from 'disect' or 'section' which implies splitting off from an existing religion, not the creation of a new one?

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    Sorry, but that's not what @KnowSelf asked, is it? I can't think of where the terms may be used outside a religious context?
     
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  9. Jeff Bradt

    Jeff Bradt New Member

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    I was raised Catholic until 12 years old when I declared that I was an atheist and stopped going to church. At 26, I joined a non-denominational cult for 12 years which of course was the worst mistake of my life. Then I left that and a few years later stopped going to church altogether. At age 45, I officially defected from the Catholic church as I had not yet, which was the best decision of my life to that point. I had already become an atheist again, around age 38.
    I will be an atheist for the rest of my life. I feel that I have discovered the truth-- or, more accurately, no falsehood-- in atheism.
     
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  10. Cino

    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic) Admin

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    Thanks for the intro, @Jeff Brandt!

    Welcome to the forums.
     
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  11. muhammad_isa

    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    Oh .. you are a prophet as well, now.. ;)
     
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  12. Craz

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    Is it ever possible that you will give up Islam?

    ETA It is pretty obvious from reading his story (linked to in his profile) that he never really had any concept of God.
     
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  13. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    Were you certain before 11? Were you certain in the cult? And this certainty is different?

    I personally find declarations that are eternal both admirable (in that it is beyond my ken) and strange (for the same reason)

    I'm an agnostic (but I reserve the right to change my thought/understanding based on new information)
     
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    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    Oh and welcome Jeff!
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    Yes. I can't see in to the future .. a number of scenarios.
    ..lose my faith
    ..lose my mind etc.
     
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  16. Craz

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    A sensible answer.
    However, I tend to allow people to experience certitude, unless they are laying their trip on me.

    Stay well & safe.
     
  17. muhammad_isa

    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    and you :)
     
  18. kiwimac

    kiwimac God is NOT about Fear

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    The form is a place to start. The seminary is online but ordination is done in the old time way, by the laying on of hands. I am the local ordinary for NZ, that is, I am the bishop for NZ. If we were as large as the RCC the local ordinary would be the bishop of the city in which you reside.
     
  19. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Thank you.
    Is 2014 the date of your foundation?
    If so ROCC is quite new?
    Please do not think I am being unfriendly. As a Catholic I am genuinely inquisitive.
     
  20. OrtaYol

    OrtaYol Active Member

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    What does atheism claim besides there being no God(s) that we can verify as not being false?

    Also welcome :)
     

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