Who created God?

[Yahweh kid]

I would declare myself a Christian Advaita

I am a simple man, a plain Christian who choose to follow Jesus, His wisdom and guidance. I 100% do not adhere to Advaita and believe the whole Bible is the Word of God. The Creator decides what happens to His creation, many might not want to accept that and would rather go with a version of the Bible that makes them feel good.
Matthew 10:28 and Advaita are incompatible.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Thank you for your view on the matter....
I have no hatred or dislike, nor affiliation or liking......I have no duty, nor any purpose, nor any desire.......I am without alternative, without any form......... you believe this to be true?

'Advaita' thinks of two levels of existence. The Absolute Truth and the Pragmatic Truth. What Sankara said is the Absolute Truth. Pragmatic Truth is our perceived universe. But you will know this if you are familiar with 'Advaita' philosophy as some of the members here are.

Matthew 10:28 and Advaita are incompatible.

Your beliefs are your right and I have no problem with that. Yes, Matthew 10:28 is not compatible with my views.

 

[Clobbernocky]

God is an invention of the human ego. An authority figure not to be questioned, worshipped without ceasing, and judges everybody

 

[muhammad_isa]

"8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the "Gift of God"— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast."

Yes, that makes sense to me. It is not "our works" that save us..
If it were, then not one of us would be saved.

However, if we have no good works, our salvation is in serious danger.
It is not a case of either/or.

 

[Yahweh kid]

Yes, that makes sense to me. It is not "our works" that save us..
If it were, then not one of us would be saved.

Amen.

However, if we have no good works, our salvation is in serious danger.

What happens to a person who has done no works? like a baby.......
What happens to a person who did 10 good works and 10 evil works?

 

[TheLightWithin]

I'm a Christian monist, but not a pantheist – I can accept a qualified panentheism.

Fascinating. Can you clarify?

 

[TheLightWithin]

Matthew 10:28 and Advaita are incompatible.

Different religious views are often incompatible.
Some ideas can be reconciled, some cannot.

 

[TheLightWithin]

What happens to a person who has done no works? like a baby.......
What happens to a person who did 10 good works and 10 evil works?

Do you think anybody has access to an answer for that?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Yes, that makes sense to me. It is not "our works" that save us..
However, if we have no good works, our salvation is in serious danger.

Don't you see the discord between the two sentences?

What happens to a person who has done no works? like a baby..

Just like adults, Allah tests innocent children too putting them to disasters, diseases, pain and death.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Do you think anybody has access to an answer for that?

Both die. The problem is what happens after.
For most atheists (I do not speak for al atheists), there is no after, nothing to worry about that.
For theists, heaven if you have dittoed the line or hell if you have not.

 

[TheLightWithin]

Both die. The problem is what happens after.
For most atheists (I do not speak for al atheists), there is no after, nothing to worry about that.
For theists, heaven if you have dittoed the line or hell if you have not.

Well, some theists.
Some theistic religions posit conditional immortality (ex heterodox denoms of Christianity, some Jewish thinkers) or reincarnation (Sikhism, some Jewish thinkers) or other afterlife theories (I believe Bahai' has a different afterlife theory?)
Philosophical theists don't necessarily have a devoted dogma around the afterlife. Also, in Judaism, the afterlife is not heavily emphasized and the Jewish faith posits several theories (actually I think every possible theory of the afterlife is at least considered by some Jewish thinkers, and some Jewish thinkers are even able to reconcile the various theories)

 

[rstrats]

this....Salvation

So, you're saying that grace and faith are not gifts from the Father.

 

[Yahweh kid]

So, you're saying that grace and faith are not gifts from the Father.

Why should you think that? I was referring to that verse. We cannot earn Salvation, it is a gift from God. I was not talking about the gifts of the Spirit.

 

[Yahweh kid]

Allah tests innocent children

How does Allah test a baby? Some examples would be nice.

 

[Yahweh kid]

Do you think anybody has access to an answer for that?

Everyone in most cases have a belief or opinion.

 

[Aupmanyav]

How does Allah test a baby? Some examples would be nice.

Earthquakes, sunamis, volcanoes, diseases, hunger. Aceh, Gaza, Ukraine. He has a hundred ways to test people and babies.

 

[Yahweh kid]

Earthquakes, sunamis, volcanoes, diseases, hunger. Aceh, Gaza, Ukraine. He has a hundred ways to test people and babies.

What is he testing?
That has nothing to do with how good the person is....

 

[muhammad_isa]

Don't you see the discord between the two sentences?

No. Faith is responsible for our changing our behaviour.

 

[Aupmanyav]

No. Faith is responsible for our changing our behaviour.

For good or bad. Al-Qaeda, IS, Boko-Haram, etc. Around India, Jaish-e-Muhammad, Lashkar-e-Taiyyaba, etc.

 

[rstrats]

Why should you think that? I was referring to that verse. We cannot earn Salvation, it is a gift from God. I was not talking about the gifts of the Spirit.

So, you're saying that the gifts of grace and faith are not given by the Father but are first given by the Spirit which then allows the Father to give His gift of salvation.