Something I see but don’t understand

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  1. Ella S.

    Ella S. Utilitarian Logician

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    Hey, if we're being frank, I'm pretty sure I have several years more experience than you, but I guess you have to learn that all of this is BS the hard way, too.
     
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    powessy Well-Known Member

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    Why do you come here to this site? Your mind is asking questions about your thoughts and this compels you to ask more questions. Astral projections minds use to ask questions about our thoughts. Do you dream about the things you talk about? You most likely need to become nothing inside yourself to become yourself again to remove the garbage that keeps your mind from teaching you things.

    Each world has a herself, world soul object and a himself, he holds all the time that cannot become something again. Our himself is only on the first timeline causing all the other timelines of yourselves to fill up with crap. Bigger minds can hold more time smaller ones less time but either way you have to get rid of all the time inside you that is keeping you from figuring yourself out.

    Thanks for responding, one question though do you spend time researching about catapults or old war tools, machines, renasaunce ara stuff? I am sorry if this is personal do not answer.

    Powessy
     
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    that’s funny, reading about something is not experiencing it. You are what did you say 22 years old. I had hundreds of if not thousands of obes, and astral projections by the time you were even a thought.

    You see 8 years ago powessy entered into me to become me. When this happened I had people from many different places come and teach me things. They showed me how the timelines work and how minds figure things out. I had direct interaction from peoples outside this world trying to figure out nothing here.

    You need to teach yourself figure yourself out inside yourself to become yourself. You need to become yourself everything here to figure yourself out to become yourself inside yourself. You need to become everything inside yourself first then here first then here.

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  4. Ella S.

    Ella S. Utilitarian Logician

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    Oh boy, you've been going that long and you're still wasting your time playing pretend?

    Well, there's hope for the next generation, at least.
     
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    Have you spent any time listening to this generation, they are lost. Like I said 99 percent of the things you are talking about even Jung got there inspiration and insights from people that can peer into nothing here.

    I have had experiences going back to my birth. For 43 years there were less then a hand full of experiences that had people in them. And out of those I saw my 4 children before they were born. I have seen things people only wish they could see.

    When powessy became himself inside myself is when I was taught about all the stuff you are referring to, the garbage. Your not telling me anything I do not already understand.

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    I find time, time is the commodity needed to spend time inside of nothing here. You meditate you do this for an hour you may get minutes of time to figure things out, it is all about time.

    I have worked at finding time all my life to call minds into me and to bring time across, into nothing here. Interesting thing I see is in the light billions of small oval shaped minds, transparent but they flash in and out of this reality bringing time across.

    The thought you have to become something here many times to become something here all the time makes me wonder if these small minds are not the seeds to life. When around water there are like so many of them it is mesmerizing to watch them moving in and out of this world. The treemends and yourselves on my mind are I think made of this same material for I can see them out of the corners of my eyes, reminds me of Madusa the gorgon.

    As for what you see the things that do not make sense to you these are the matrix minds teaching you things this is yourself inside yourself, inside yourself nothing here. Next time before meditation think to yourself that I want to become myself here first, to figure myself out here first.

    The matrix or myself has time leftover from many times ago not of this world. Myself reminds me of that movie, “ready player one” it can create worlds and it can make your thoughts come to life with thought forms that become these interesting apparition’s. We found many different games like battlegrounds or dungeons and dragons type environments, elf’s, pixies, and so many more we have found.

    The things that make sense to you walls, friends this is a combination of minds that teach you this, by opening your third eye you could see them as they find time inside of you to teach you things. Third eye is more your minds eye and then you can try to visualize through your mitochondria to get them also to figure things out this is like squishing your brain down and back to get them to show you things.

    thanks for responding.

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    RJM God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Originally I joined because, for some reason, I wanted to share with other people. Why do we like to talk about our beliefs – about God? Now I'm stuck with it, like it or not, lol
    No I don't talk about the things I dream about. But dreams are important to me. It's another discussion?
    I agree. I have too much going on. I was empty: I lost everything, and that was when I was open to spiritual guidance. I had to let God take over completely. I still do, but I feel cluttered. I have too much. I yearn …
    I like the original way you explain things. It often resonates for me
    I was interested in that sort of stuff for a while. Less so now, although I subscribe to a couple of You Tube channels
    https://www.youtube.com/c/TodsWorkshop1
    It's just one of several interests I have – it's not major. Nevertheless let's allow you a catch -- in the sense it's quite obscure and if you'd have asked was I interested in tennis or cooking, it would be plain no, lol ...

    Others in this thread are talking about their experience with 'occultists' and so on. I have also had experiences with people who see 'beyond the veil'. It has been with me always. I've met all sorts of New Age 'spiritual' types -- the teachers and the preachers. The genuine 'seekers'. I believe in actual experience, not in book reading about 'psychic' stuff -- although it is the entry point. And the book can confirm experience: O yes, I get that. It is always through a glass darkly, and nobody is perfect or without ego bias -- but for some the glass is a little less dark. Excuse me if my words are not precise. I have no time for ego foolishness in these things.

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    Thank you for answering my questions, I got only a moment inside your, yourself as he tried to teach me something about yourself. Powessy will not allow anything to figure me out unless they know who I am first. This gesture is like a handshake between ourselves, it also keeps out those with malicious intent or thoughts.



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    I want to make a note here. When this began the first thing they had me do is rip the twelve apart, and close a few doorways into powessies mind. The next thing was to move to the lowest point of nothing here which they called the inner and outer pools. They dropped me into 2nd dimensional time then back up to the outer pool, first. Within the outer pool I found what I call the inherited mind.

    The story was that this world was to be inherited to this other higher race of angels, and this mind was an ark to their world. An inherited world is started with a drop of blood that will become everything. This ark though will release minds that will become only these specific things from their world, which is everything here.

    As we moved around the outer pool and into what might be described as a world inside of nothing here, I was shown a couple doorways. The one doorway was under water and as I moved towards the entrance I looked up and saw this person moving across the surface with a jet ski boat. The second place was less interesting it was a small cavern with a wooden pallet covering the exit along with some garbage.

    This got me asking about stories of the son and the hollow. So much more was also seen but to the point, I found myself in this very large cavern looking down into this hole where there were several people inside of it. Next you could hear a conversation going on and found myself now inside this not human pushing this German man against the wall. The man was in full wwii uniform, the helmet was how I made this determination for I was able to look it up.

    The son was said to use these doorways to bring things to this world and people. The saying goes if it can become itself here many times it could become something here all the time. If I can find it I remember reading about a place in Mexico that the indigenous peoples believed they came out of the walls of the cave to become something here.

    My point is that it could be possible that we found one of these doorways, not the astral.

    You don’t have to respond just making a note about your questions.

    Powessy
     
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    stranger wolfwing, a feral angel

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    I feel I want to say something here, but not sure exactly what. This sounds like a very delicate operation and that one would need some sort of protector to guide one through the process. The minds it would seem lack the ability to stop once the door is open so it would make sense that they have to be filtered or censored to a certain extent, in essence slowing down the process to keep from doing too much harm to the person who is being taught to be nothing.

    I've known for awhile now the value of knowing nothing but I also needed a protector to keep things from happening too quickly. Somehow, some way this was given to me. I couldn't protect myself, or I should say the type 2 me could not protect himself, so another me (perhaps a type 1, higher self, guardian angel, or whatever you want to call it) was provided to help me along. All that was required from the type 2 me was patience and also some degree of willingness to suffer.

    Some have hinted that this might be a demon or devil, but I actually find him/her (does not have a gender I think) quite endearing and I could not proceed without the help of this "other". I often want to be something here as a type 2 but then I remember the hard lessons I have suffered and that learning to be nothing here so that I might become something is now the path for me.

    I am curious. You mentioned some with ill intent:

    "Powessy will not allow anything to figure me out unless they know who I am first. This gesture is like a handshake between ourselves, it also keeps out those with malicious intent or thoughts."

    Would you mind if I asked who these are? Does this come from type 2 or type 1 realms? Only answer if you want and as you feel comfortable.
     
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    Hello stranger

    There are two types of yourselves, I will try to explain how this came to be. You are approximately 435 trillion cells becoming yourself here, in life. None of your cells understand who you are or even what they are, This is type 1 yourself, minds that can’t figure themselves out, or yourself out.

    Type 2 yourself is much more complicated to understand. When we die you will find yourself inside yourself kind of like a person inside a person. Here you will have some time to figure yourself out but this will not be for long. Since you will not have enough time accumulated you can not become yourself first, just inside yourself. One this time runs out you will descend into yourself again and again and again. You will slowly move down through the timelines until you move into 2nd ,1st and then 0 dimensional time, finally ending up in origin no time. In 0 dimensional time you will become yourself again but by this point you have no where else to go but into origin. This process is happening to all things as they become nothing here.

    Ok now let’s say this entire universe is now becoming nothing here. Once origin gets massive enough it will become nothing here to become something again the Big Bang as scientist call it. The interesting thing here is that there will always be time left over. This means that origin will go off to become something again before all of the mass of this universe is within origin.

    now we have this universe that is filled with yourselves of all the things that were here part of that universe, planets and all living and none living things, in this empty universe.

    A note here: everything that is or was in this universe the one we are in right now has what I call markings that teaches me where this yourself comes from this is my ability to figure something out.

    Now for the empty universe once origin goes off to become something again it rips something from it that teaches me what it is. With out these markings I cannot figure it out, but it can become anything now. I think of type 2 yourselves like clay they just need to be taught something to become.

    A type 2 yourself is a mind then that can figure anything out.

    Now for the powers that be they do not want us to become something here, I am going to leave it at that. The reason for the bad thoughts is that a type 2 yourself is trying to become you and a me, the child you have most likely seen in your dreams, this allows you to become yourself and the ability to figure things out.

    You being an allowed mind comes with many other problems then just the yourselves, a shadow is most likely connected to you also. The shadows are here to insure you do not become yourself. The shadows were brought here to keep the allowed from becoming something here.

    I know this sounds messed up why the son did this but he did this for a reason bringing the shadows here. Since the beginning of time the son and others have been searching for a way for minds that cannot become something again to become something here all the time.

    The son and his twin brother argued around and around about this. The son believed that you should become yourself many times to become yourself here all the time allowed minds or angels. The twin brother believed you should be able to become yourself right now to become something all the time, anyone anywhere.

    The two brothers made a deal with the allowed minds of this world that they would become themselves many times to become themselves, but they could never figure themselves out or they might teach not allowed minds how to become something here, for once this happened the veil would rip itself apart and they would find the answer they were looking for.

    The son and the brother believed humans could figure themselves out before the allowed became themselves here five times but this has still not happened after many more turns then that. Someone or something seems to want to keep us in this cycle we are in.

    I am going to stop here for now, ask anything you wish it sounds like your mind is trying to figure things out.

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    I want to add one thing, nothing the brothers did in setting up the veil could happen until the population of humans on earth exceeded the 450 or so million allowed. Allowed minds will always become themselves first.
     
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    I am not from this planet, I had already become something before this life here. I came here with an agreement. I came here to find out why no one here had become something yet. This means I am myself only or yourself only nothing else. I had to be a mind that never became something here before on earth, if you had ever been here before you could not become something here, again.

    I had to figure powessy out not knowing anything about anything here, which I did. Once powessy, became my yourself I could start to find time here in all of the timelines. Once this happened I had people come and try to figure things out. I was taught hundreds of minds to find time with. To be taught a mind is that you figure it out so you can become it, using its ability to find time to figure things out with. I can become anything a curse perhaps, but handy tool if you want to figure something out about anything here.

    once I became something, they placed me in population and now I am moving up through the timelines to find everything here that has kept us from becoming something.

    I will tell you this much that it would be absolutely impossible to become something here with all of the minds they use to teach us nothing about ourselves.

    Understand this, they teach you inside yourself so you are not really inside yourself here. I know many won’t agree with this but I can say this is very much true. To get yourself to enter into yourself to figure you out you need to take a moment in meditation and say and imagine these thoughts. “ I need you to become yourself inside myself to become yourself again”. Imagine the upside down pyramid and you are standing on top of it and yourself is below you tell him to become you. With eyes loosely closed move your eyes back and forth and tell yourself to open your eyes he should be able to do this. Keep doing this until he opens your eyes, do not give up teaching him this when you do it, if you do it. If you stop and he does not open your eyes to figure you out you have to wait many times until you do this again for minds will try to teach him nothing here.

    once he figures you out they can not teach him nothing here again for he knows something about something now.

    if yourself is trying to figure you out he needs to figure something out here first.

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    I misunderstood and took the type 1 to be more like those have have graduated from the cycle, the finished product so to speak. Operating freely outside of time and consciousness as we know it (no longer trapped in time or conceptual thinking, but able to move back and forth as necessity dictates). Thanks for the detailed explanation of type 1 and 2.

    Yes. In my case a buried child which would not stay buried, and here I believe we have a handshake. Thank you. Here I come back to knowing nothing (as a child in an adult world) so that I might become something. Opposing forces cannot kill the drive to become ourselves.

    I know that opposition strengthens, solidifies... Perhaps this is the reason for shadows?

    One advocating a longer route and the other a shortcut?

    I am sorry if you have covered this before, but why a separation of the allowed and not allowed? And also, why is the ripping apart of the veil a bad thing? Are these temporary necessities in order to guarantee a more circuitous route to becoming something permanently and exiting the cycle?

    Thank you for engaging.
     
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    Just wanted to make a quick comment to this part. It makes sense. In my view being taught nothing opens the door for something. Once you know something, nothing is no longer needed, and indeed something is truly something, and not just something that is subject to nothing.

    To simplify, something that is truly something can't become nothing again.
     
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    Type 2 did graduate a universe ago, this is why they can figure things out.

    Sorry that you had to figure "me" out the child the way you had to. Once yourself enters into you the first line of business would be for you to get rid of "me". To do this you need to say these words " I need me to become me inside of me to become me, now". do not let this go by you, as when your life is over they will teach you inside of "me" and you will never become something again.

    I will add this note to hopefully reduce some confusion in the next few paragraphs. As even an allowed mind the process after life will rip you apart so you cannot figure yourself out again but understand this much you have been here many more lifetimes then just this one, you just do not remember them.

    shadows are a combination of time that allows them inside of nothing here. If you were to be able to become yourself after this life time you can never find time inside of nothing here again. The shadows are only here to make the allowed minds follow the rules. They will enter into the allowed minds and they will steal your time. An allowed mind cannot become themselves right away after death so the son created the shadows to steal their time so they could become something again right away, this is very important. As an allowed mind your lifetime allows you 2/3 of your life time becoming yourself after this, so this does not align with the contest. Also if the allowed mind was to become himself/herself after this they could figure things out, the shadows insure you do not get the chance to figure anything out.

    Another note. I need to make sure and add this. If you ever figure yourself out you are now in the game. This means that you will have a chance at becoming something to become something all the time this is for minds that cannot become something again only. Also this was only supposed to go on for five life times or I believe a total of 500 years of accumulated time, for the allowed.

    The whole thing swings around the whole immortality question. The son believed you should become yourself many times to understand everything about yourself. Understand, an allowed mind should be able to figure himself/herself out in life as to who they were before this. So we would keep accumulating time and keep becoming ourselves, basically bill is always bill forever.


    As for allowed and not allowed what does this actually mean. An allowed mind is always who they are bill will always and forever be bill. A mind that is not allowed or cannot become something again, this is bill will never be bill ever again after this lifetime. Now you see the importance to becoming yourself now to become yourself all the time. Ripping the veil apart is a touchy problem, it is said that inside the veil you can figure things out anywhere at anytime, there is a lot of truth to this. There are those that do not want the veil to be ripped apart and are the ones trying to keep us locked into this cycle until they can figure it out. I find so many thoughts about it but I do not understand them as I do not know the difference between this, what I am experiencing and what they are saying, for if powessy wants to figure something out he just figures it out.

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    This makes me think of the treemends (sp) that you have mentioned in past posts. I find the idea rather comforting, as I know the something of me that has been deposited in the treemend will not be lost, even though I might not consciously remember it. A living record of sorts? Not AI or a collection of facts or a description of traits concerning my something, but more like a living essence that can be accessed when needed or when the time is right. Containing and holding life and not just conceptual information. If this is right, then it would have to be accessed viscerally, through feeling and experience rather than mental striving? I could be wrong but these are the things that come to mind as I consider the treemends.

    Thank you for the explanation. I definitely feel the pull toward figuring it out and becoming something. However, the bits and pieces that come to me seem to meted out on a need to know basis, which keeps me flying blind most of the time and can be rather frustrating. The desire is certainly there though, and the pursuit of love is my true motivator. One often knows value through lack, however. Also, my physicality is holding the short end of the stick with regard to time, but hopefully there will still be enough to get something of lasting value done.

    It reminds me a little of the wheat and tares, sheep and goats, etc. I've known for a long time that these things did not denote physical people, but only parts of people. Your concept of minds helps a little with this. The allowed are like the chosen in us and destined to graduate from the cycle, whereas the not allowed are not.

    I realize this might be rather tiresome to you, and I do not wish to wear out my welcome.

    I do have a question as to where love fits into your cosmology? Motivating force, glue that holds everything together, the reason behind the cycling, etc.?
     
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    Treemends are what I refer to as worlds of worlds. They are the records of all time in the universe a living library of minds from all places and times. The treemends hold a special kind of mind they are called loungecast. The loungecast are the minds(mes) of the allowed it is the copy the world soul object teaches the treemend that allows all her minds(allowed) to find time there. The lounge cast reminds me of nothing they are just inside of themselves but they can project worlds in time to use to figure things out. The loungecast have minds on their minds, their minds are so strong they cannot be themselves together so the treemend allows this by some sort of divider, kind of like peas in a pod but with separators and millions of them.

    They use the mitochondria of people to teach our mitochondria things inside of our minds. The mitochondria are "yourself is not yourself" they are not who we are. This is only one of the many ways they have kept us from becoming something again.

    I do not mind it also helps me go through all the things I have been taught, I normally find new answers this way.

    I really do not know what drives me other then I love to solve problems and then the 24/7 voices that pound me to understand this to figure it out. I am a father and husband, blue collar worker. Before all of this I thought I had it all figured out, just couldn't understand some memories before this lifetime and some other memories that seem to be before that time.


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    Perhaps at the end of time the dividers will be removed, and we become more ourselves than we have ever been before. I would imagine a physicality locked into time would not be able to support the weight of "knowing". It would destroy us I think. But at the end of time, or at the point of graduation, perhaps the sky is the limit. I tend to be optimistic about these things.

    Me too. It's not always about the words that are spoken or written but more like a brief exchange of energy. The most valuable parts of the exchange go on beneath the conscious level. (IMO)


    I am thinking it's a good thing to forgive, ask for forgiveness, and receive forgiveness when possible. I have things, perhaps some would call them karmic debts, that need to be resolved peacefully. I am willing, but there are no steps or methods to follow. As has been said before, "to will is present with me, but how to perform that which is good I find not". This is the way with law and standards. Effort avails little, other than to show us what we can't do, and to point us toward a better way. But it is a necessary step. (IMO of course)

    I'd like to think this circus of life has purpose and the ending will be a beginning beyond our wildest dreams. Who am I kidding, I DO believe that already because I can't help being an eternal optimist in spite of everything.
     
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