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For this forum Interfaith it seems like bicker-city haha
Yeah... A certain level of bickering and vigorous discussion, even disagreement is part of the fun. It's about balance and keeping the basic idea of enlarging our capacity for and interest in other ways to see the world.
 

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Moderator message:

We cannot allow users to be abusive, overly aggressive or to "troll". This does not follow our rules. Further messages may be removed or altered and the posting member's account access may be limited based on these actions.

Interfaith dialogue is characterized by accepting the other person's different worldview, not by trying to make them accept our own, or by showing them the error of their ways. There is too much of that in the world already. We are doing something else here.

Members who continue to misuse this forum as a soapbox to proclaim their personal views without listening to the other participants and without working on a way to make space for others' world views and religions, are misunderstanding the whole point of this forum completely.

Yeah, I figured I wasn't understanding something. Sorry. I won't proclaim my personal views, question others' perspectives, or try to correct others' reasoning any further. This forum is clearly not for me and I respect that. I hope you guys have productive dialogue.
 

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Yeah, I figured I wasn't understanding something. Sorry. I won't proclaim my personal views, question others' perspectives, or try to correct others' reasoning any further. This forum is clearly not for me and I respect that. I hope you guys have productive dialogue.
I don't think that message was targeted at you. It was a general announcement, as far as I can tell.
"We are only human, after all" :)
 
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Yeah, I figured I wasn't understanding something. Sorry. I won't proclaim my personal views, question others' perspectives, or try to correct others' reasoning any further. This forum is clearly not for me and I respect that. I hope you guys have productive dialogue.
I want to second @muhammad_isa's post.

We've had a couple of participants in recent days who were not engaging in conversation but only posted their views repetitively, one-way communication, public address proclamation style. Haven't seen you do this ever.
 

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I don't think that message was targeted at you. It was a general announcement, as far as I can tell.
"We are only human, after all" :)
I want to second @muhammad_isa's post.

We've had a couple of participants in recent days who were not engaging in conversation but only posted their views repetitively, one-way communication, public address proclamation style. Haven't seen you do this ever.
Thanks guys. :)
What a blooming headache this place can be ...
 

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Yeah, I figured I wasn't understanding something. Sorry. I won't proclaim my personal views, question others' perspectives, or try to correct others' reasoning any further. This forum is clearly not for me and I respect that. I hope you guys have productive dialogue.
It wasn't aimed at you. Admin is trying to handle a couple of 'difficult' posters, without appearing to discriminate and thus evoke the ever-ready victim card. However, a troll is a troll imo, on his third warning and bringing down the standard of the entire site ...

https://www.interfaith.org/community/threads/20060/
@yitzak tover
Considering you have chosen to ignore the previous two warnings, issued by PM, the third and final warning is going public:

THIRD WARNING
Congratulations! You have earned A THIRD WARNING!

Most participants here have not made it this far. After one or two they learn to communicate in less obtrusive more congenial and understanding ways which foment valuable discussion.

Here at I/O we pride ourselves in decades of amicable discussion on serious sensitive topics in which people have strongheld beliefs.

You are certainly now making choices to ignore our CoC and our warnings. One more indiscretion will institute a permanent ban.

We dislike having to ban or censure people, but if you cannot accept our code of conduct, we will.
@Ella S.
You will be missed here ...
 

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The trinity has always caused me problems. In my understanding of things these three are all different things and only one of them god.

The father is god only, the son is not really a son and the Holy Spirit is everything else but the father.

hopefully I can explain this with out too much confusion.

If we were to start at the very bottom of the problem where it is the father only and nothing else we see that he is himself only. Once the father enters into origin bringing time with him origin will start to move out into what they refer to zero dimensional time. Nothing will start to become everything to become themselves again. Nothing will continue to become everything until there is nothing else to become.

Now origin is only filled with something that wants to become something again but cannot until the father has figured them all out. Once the father has figured everything out, he will move outside of zero dimensional time and release a copy of all the things he figured out. This is the first step, this step rips the father apart and forms a 1st dimensional yourselves. This then allows all zero dimensional minds to become something again in 1st dimensional time to become themselves again. The father will move back into zero dimensional time over and over again until he can figure himself out all the time, in both dimensional timelines.

So everything the father figured out is now yourselves. As the father moves into first dimensional time the yourself in zero dimensional time starts to figure itself out and will become the holly spirit of the zero dimensional timeline.

So now you have the father and the holly spirit but they are not the same and cannot become each other, for the father is himself only.

The son did not find time until the 3rd dimensional timeline was already formed. In each dimensional timeline the father has a myself he finds time in to figure himself out with.

This is where the god in the middle of your image might come from it is not god but is his myself.

When everything in the third dimensional timeline had become something he was ready to move into the 4th dimensional timeline, but everything was just starting to figure themselves out and he did not want to leave this timeline with so many asking questions. This is where the son comes in, the father made it so the son could become myself so he could answer all the questions until he returned.

Long story short only the father and son can become god”myself” but not the holly spirit, for it is everyone else.

This explanation is very simplified.

Powessy
 
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Yeah, I figured I wasn't understanding something. Sorry. I won't proclaim my personal views, question others' perspectives, or try to correct others' reasoning any further. This forum is clearly not for me and I respect that. I hope you guys have productive dialogue.

I perceive you are sensitive in this areas. We all have sensitivities, it is okay. On this forum many are possessed of powerful intuitive abilities, but that doesn't mean we must immediately attack the sensitivities we find in others. Often it is better to use intuition to soothe rather than strike. We are not animals after all. You were doing quite well, IMO.
 

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I perceive you are sensitive in this areas. We all have sensitivities, it is okay. On this forum many are possessed of powerful intuitive abilities, but that doesn't mean we must immediately attack the sensitivities we find in others. Often it is better to use intuition to soothe rather than strike. We are not animals after all. You were doing quite well, IMO.
It wasn't aimed at her @stranger
Not on any level
But thanks for your support

Anyway, she's unticked all her notification boxes, but hopefully will read these posts
 

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I swear, if this was a bar. Just simply by me walking in is enough to rile up the crowd
Really sorry. We got a troll in the mix, so wires got badly crossed. If you wanted to start a new thread, it won't be allowed to get derailed like this one ...
 

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I'm going offline until tomorrow ;)
 

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I believe Christ is who He says He is, He's my foundation. I had to the view the teachings through an intrinsic way, Gnosticism; more or less. Along with brutal shadow work I didn't know I was doing for 4 to 5 years of my life. I suppose I alchemized pertaining towards how I saw the world. And my perspective kept changing for those years, but I always kept finding solid ground. even when I lacked understanding and felt like I was falling. I became interested in all manner of spirituality. Been looking into Zoranstrianism, for reasons a few bible verses got me interested.

Hello Draco99

I am curious as of who interpreted that you were doing shadow work, if you were unaware of it?

Do you still experience astral projections or dream states with many people in them?

Did you ever experience a shadow in school or where was it that this first started?

Five years ago, when this all started, did you have something trying to rip you apart? Minds do this to teach you things as badly done as those teachings may get. I am glad you found high ground. How often now do the attacks come?

Powessy
 

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Yeah, I figured I wasn't understanding something. Sorry. I won't proclaim my personal views, question others' perspectives, or try to correct others' reasoning any further. This forum is clearly not for me and I respect that. I hope you guys have productive dialogue.

Ella S

You are a very intelligent person, you are appreciated here, you do make me ask questions about things and that is in my book what makes you stand out. I hope you stay, you bring a lot of thoughts to the table.

perhaps someday in another thread you can tell me why you got started asking questions at such a young age, I believe you said 8 years old.

Powessy
 

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Hello Draco99

I am curious as of who interpreted that you were doing shadow work, if you were unaware of it?

Do you still experience astral projections or dream states with many people in them?

Did you ever experience a shadow in school or where was it that this first started?

Five years ago, when this all started, did you have something trying to rip you apart? Minds do this to teach you things as badly done as those teachings may get. I am glad you found high ground. How often now do the attacks come?

Powessy
I was looking into psychology; I was drawn to Carl Young and his explanation towards shadow work 'It resonated with me at that time'; since I went through psychosis, schizophrenic episodes, the methods of how's it done shocked and revealed to me, I was doing something rather than doing nothing. I almost always have people in my dreams. The transition started when someone asked a question towards me, "who are you?" That's when I began isolating myself in order to understand what that question even meant? and that's when it started. Not to mention, I had a mirror in my room, pacing back and forth, looking into the mirror and asking that question. It was a fucking ride, "pardon my french"
 

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I was looking into psychology; I was drawn to Carl Young and his explanation towards shadow work 'It resonated with me at that time'; since I went through psychosis, schizophrenic episodes, the methods of how's it done shocked and revealed to me, I was doing something rather than doing nothing. I almost always have people in my dreams. The transition started when someone asked a question towards me, "who are you?" That's when I began isolating myself in order to understand what that question even meant? and that's when it started. Not to mention, I had a mirror in my room, pacing back and forth, looking into the mirror and asking that question. It was a fucking ride, "pardon my french"

Thank you for sharing, no need to pardon anything, I know how badly done they got.

I learned of Carl Jung here on this site, and his work within psychology and the mind. I find some of his thoughts very interesting as he dove into the world of nothing here.

Just information. How they attach is to first figure you out and then your mitochondria. Why, mitochondria they are not who we are or yourself is not yourself. The next thing they do is move down into yourself where they can teach your mitochondria things. They only do this when they find you inside yourself trying to figure things out, like “ who are you”.

The dreams are then minds outside of you that then can teach these minds things like your dreams inside you. They do this to figure things out it is a back and forth torment as the minds inside yourself want nothing to teach you things and yet the minds outside yourself keep trying to teach you things, an interesting tug of war.

Anyways thanks again for sharing.

Powessy
 

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I believe Christ is who He says He is, He's my foundation. I had to the view the teachings through an intrinsic way, Gnosticism; more or less. Along with brutal shadow work I didn't know I was doing for 4 to 5 years of my life. I suppose I alchemized pertaining towards how I saw the world. And my perspective kept changing for those years, but I always kept finding solid ground. even when I lacked understanding and felt like I was falling. I became interested in all manner of spirituality. Been looking into Zoranstrianism, for reasons a few bible verses got me interested.

May I ask what Bible verses got you interested in Zoroastrianism? I'm formerly Anglo-Catholic and also was interested in Zoroastrianism for awhile, especially because I perceived many similarities between it and Christianity. I stopped pursuing it because it apparently isn't open to converts, but its still quite fascinating!
 

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May I ask what Bible verses got you interested in Zoroastrianism? I'm formerly Anglo-Catholic and also was interested in Zoroastrianism for awhile, especially because I perceived many similarities between it and Christianity. I stopped pursuing it because it apparently isn't open to converts, but its still quite fascinating!
The story of the three wise men who visited Christ following the star. They were magistrates, which the term can be taken in conjunction with their inherent knowing of importance concerning the star of Bethlehem, which could indicate knowledge of astrology. with the word Magi originating in Zoroastrianism as priests
 
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