Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret

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The following image is from...

"The Book of the Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry (1884)"

A free version may be found here...

The book of the ancient and accepted Scottish rite of freemasonry : containing instructions in all the degrees from the third to the thirty-third, and last degree of the rite : together with ceremonies of inauguration ... etc. : McClenachan, Charles Thompson : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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I am interested in what others think of it, and what their interpretation might be.

I will post my interpretation in a few days when I have time.



 
The following image is from...

"The Book of the Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry (1884)"

My Grandfather, a Naval officer, was a very high ranking freemason. Even his tomb is placed in an exclusive position in the churchyard!
Institutions that practise exclusion haven't gained a good name.

The old yachting and golf and other clubs have only offered membership to freemasons before now, and may still do.
The very fact that freemasonry has been a secret society can tell it all, I think.

My father shunned it, much to my grandfather's displeasure.
He said to me, 'If you want to be able to have any real respect for yourself, do it alone, do it yourself!'

The Charities Commission excluded the Freemasons from charitable status about 15-20 years ago, although I do not know what the position is now.
 
Institutions that practise exclusion haven't gained a good name.

The old yachting and golf and other clubs have only offered membership to freemasons before now, and may still do.
The very fact that freemasonry has been a secret society can tell it all, I think.

The tendency to exclude non-members is not unique to Yacht Clubs. It sucks, but it sucks everywhere, IMO.

The secrecy regarding initiatory knowledge and rituals may look sinister, but then you also posted a link to a book containing all the secrets, so that didn't work out in the long run.

The snobby social club aspect aside, I can see how the oaths of secrecy can create a safe space for members to participate in activities which may not meet broad social acceptance.

Take the BDSM scene as an example. Nothing illegal, nothing sinister, consensual adults doing things they're into - but without the confidentiality ("secrecy"), it would probably not be possible for most of that scene to participate. Of course it would still suck if they took over a yacht club and then only admitted people to the club who were into BDSM.

Interesting topic!
 
The tendency to exclude non-members is not unique to Yacht Clubs. It sucks, but it sucks everywhere, IMO.

The secrecy regarding initiatory knowledge and rituals may look sinister, but then you also posted a link to a book containing all the secrets, so that didn't work out in the long run.

The snobby social club aspect aside, I can see how the oaths of secrecy can create a safe space for members to participate in activities which may not meet broad social acceptance.

Take the BDSM scene as an example. Nothing illegal, nothing sinister, consensual adults doing things they're into - but without the confidentiality ("secrecy"), it would probably not be possible for most of that scene to participate. Of course it would still suck if they took over a yacht club and then only admitted people to the club who were into BDSM.

Interesting topic!
I didn't write the op nor post any links, Cino, but yes, I recognise that jobs, careers, military commissions, contracts and more were available to those who were 'in', and the church here was riddled with it.

I don't know what the position is now. The young are making their way through IT and I hope they desert such institutions.
 
My Grandfather, a Naval officer, was a very high ranking freemason. Even his tomb is placed in an exclusive position in the churchyard!
Institutions that practise exclusion haven't gained a good name.

The old yachting and golf and other clubs have only offered membership to freemasons before now, and may still do.
The very fact that freemasonry has been a secret society can tell it all, I think.

My father shunned it, much to my grandfather's displeasure.
He said to me, 'If you want to be able to have any real respect for yourself, do it alone, do it yourself!'

The Charities Commission excluded the Freemasons from charitable status about 15-20 years ago, although I do not know what the position is now.

My paternal grandfather was a Scottish Rite Freemason. There was nothing honorable about that man. He was a drunkard and a wife-beater, but his charisma carried him to the top of the boys' club. He held at least a 31st degree.

In my opinion, I think his existence demonstrates how vapid Masonry actually is. Any institution that rewards people like that has shown that their opinion on "moral character" is completely meaningless.

I don't have anything against Freemasonry, per se, and I certainly wouldn't make blanket generalizations about Masons as a whole. I just don't give their claim of esoteric wisdom any stock. The older I get, the more I realize that genuine wisdom has existed since before written history. Sages are just relearning the same lessons that Buddha spoke about, that Jesus gave parables on, that ancient Greek philosophers defended, that Arabic theologians developed complex scientific and mathematical arguments to prove, etc.

The Grand Lodge does not have anything unique or special enough for its claims to elitism.
 
Thanks everyone for visiting and commenting. :cool:

I have to go to work, but I wanted to take a moment to share part of my interpretation.

I believe the image in the OP represents a Biblical Encampment, much like the ones we find the Old Testament...

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The above image shows the Tabernacle in the Wilderness surrounded by the Twelve Tribes. Note the various flags representing each Tribe.

The Most Holy Place is in the center. X marks the spot so to speak. That is where the Messiah dwells and communicates with the outside world.

Now compare it to the image in the OP...

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I will be back soon with more.
 
OK, I am back with more.

The Key to decoding the image has to do with the number of Tribes. In the Wilderness Encampment, there were twelve Tribes surrounding the center. The center being the Levite Priests.

If we look at the Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret image, we find that there are only nine encampments surrounding the center. This tells us that we are not looking at the encampment of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. We are looking at an imposter! Can we reverse engineer who the imposter is? I believe we can.

The High Priest that enters into the Most Holy Place ultimately represents Jesus in Christian teachings. The High Priest was decorated with twelve gemstones. All we need to do is find out what gemstones the imposter wears and see if it matches the Masonic symbolism. Once we do that, we have found our Man.

Here we go...

Ezekiel 28:13
"Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created."


Looks like we may have found a match. The above verse is in reference to the infamous Lucifer. Look at all of those gemstones he wears. Let us now count them...

1) Sardius
2) Topaz
3) Diamond
4) Beryl
5) Onyx
6) Jasper
7) Sapphire
8) Emerald
9) Carbuncle

Ah ha!!! Just as I suspected. Lucifer is covered in nine gemstones... the same as the number of Encampments in the Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret image. There is more evidence of course, but you get the idea. We now know what the 'Royal Secret' is.

The God of Freemasonry is none other than Lucifer!

But wait... what about the Gold? Gold is the TENTH element that Lucifer was covered with. Where is the tenth Encampment?

What is the Roman Numeral for 10? X marks the spot! Go back and look. The Golden Child is the Messiah at the center, in the Most Holy Place.

The Golden Child of Freemasonry is Lucifer...

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It is said that Lucifer will one day rise out of the Pit to bring Order from the Chaos that will soon arrive on the Earth...

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According to the Book of Revelation, Lucifer will bring 1/3 of the Angels with him...

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Stars = Angels. How many are there? 32. The Eagle makes 33-1/3...

Revelation 12:4
"And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born."


:eek:

Anyhoo. That is my interpretation of the

Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret

image.
 
The God of Freemasonry is none other than Lucifer!

...but it isn't? Freemasonry spawned out of the Knights Hospitaller, a Catholic order, and their main themes center around Christian Cabala. They view themselves as the builders of the Third Temple, a reflection of Heaven on earth, awaiting Christ's second coming.

Luciferians certainly aren't banned from becoming Masons, although most of them belong to the Blue Lodge with a lot of people from other religious faiths such as Hindus, Jews, Muslims, and Pagans. They probably could join the Scottish Rite, too, but I kind of doubt they would be comfortable going very far in it due to its heavy Christian themes.

There are a few Luciferian Pseudo-Masonic Orders, though, such as the Fraternitas Saturni, Dragon Rouge, or the Neo-Luciferian Church, though, and Ben Kadosh did try to make a Luciferian form of Freemasonry, although he never got very far.
 
I expect that there are many good, lawful, peaceful, decent freemasons.
It's just a fact that I cannot remember knowing any.
I've been approached several times over the years and have known many, and they just didn't impress me at all.
Enough.........
 
...but it isn't? Freemasonry spawned out of the Knights Hospitaller, a Catholic order, and their main themes center around Christian Cabala. They view themselves as the builders of the Third Temple, a reflection of Heaven on earth, awaiting Christ's second coming.

Luciferians certainly aren't banned from becoming Masons, although most of them belong to the Blue Lodge with a lot of people from other religious faiths such as Hindus, Jews, Muslims, and Pagans. They probably could join the Scottish Rite, too, but I kind of doubt they would be comfortable going very far in it due to its heavy Christian themes.

There are a few Luciferian Pseudo-Masonic Orders, though, such as the Fraternitas Saturni, Dragon Rouge, or the Neo-Luciferian Church, though, and Ben Kadosh did try to make a Luciferian form of Freemasonry, although he never got very far.
You tempted me to post again! :)
If any of these did build a third temple, and If Jesus did come amongst them, then I feel sure that he would lay waste to it, just like he did to the other one. :)
 
Is freemasonry exclusive?

I mean it is a club, but who does it exclude?

There are black lodges, there is eastern star?

I have always seen it as any club...with common knowledge and a goal. To me it could be any religious organization, or union with apprenticeship and training and a goal of working together for a common goal.
 
Is freemasonry exclusive?

I mean it is a club, but who does it exclude?

There are black lodges, there is eastern star?

I have always seen it as any club...with common knowledge and a goal. To me it could be any religious organization, or union with apprenticeship and training and a goal of working together for a common goal.

You have to be a cishet male for the most part and, for some older lodges, your father also had to be a Freemason to get in.
 
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You tempted me to post again! :)
If any of these did build a third temple, and If Jesus did come amongst them, then I feel sure that he would lay waste to it, just like he did to the other one. :)

I think Jesus would probably dig Freemasonry just because they essentially bow to him, but I imagine his takeover of it wouldn't be peaceful. This is the guy that had his followers sell all of their belongings and threatened them with hellfire for questioning or disobeying him, while claiming to be the messiah and a spokesman for God.

He comes across like an ancient Vissarion or Kenneth Copeland to me. I think he'd love the power.
 
I think Jesus would probably dig Freemasonry just because they essentially bow to him, but I imagine his takeover of it wouldn't be peaceful. This is the guy that had his followers sell all of their belongings and threatened them with hellfire for questioning or disobeying him, while claiming to be the messiah and a spokesman for God.

He comes across like an ancient Vissarion or Kenneth Copeland to me. I think he'd love the power.
OK..... but I perceive him differently to that.
I just think that he felt very angry about excessive wealth in a land where there was excessive poverty.
He didn't think that folks needed more than themselves. :)
 
I am not a Freemason. But I am one of an Illuminated order

As such, I can tell you exactly what the 32nd dimensional "degree" is within the Sinai order, and what the title "Sublime Prince of the royal secret" is likely supposed to mean, in relation to the ancient Illuminated understanding that modern Freemason philosophy is based upon

"Sublime Prince" in Illumination would mean the individual as they are externally perceived. As their best "self"

"Royal secret" relates to the understanding that the world around you, is an external projection of your internal physical body

This is sometimes called "Temple of Solomon" or "Throne of Solomon" in many traditions

But all it basically means, is when you look up at the sun, you are looking at your own mind

... When you look up at the moon at night, you are essentially looking down at the tip of your own spine, from the perspective of you standing on their own pineal, as the Earth

Night and moon, is to look inwards into your own body. "The underworld", which is entered and traversed by the Piscean "fisherman" initiate (initiate literally meaning "to go into"

Day and Sun, is to look outwards from your body body. The perceivable world, which is equivalent of the Aquarian water-bearer. Carrying forth the bucket of water of their Piscean initiation. The "Angel" of resonant frequency and internal cycle (Christ)

These are the "Ascended" which literally means "to go out from". The second half to initiation

The Annunaki, or "Arch-angel" of oscillating spectrum and cycle (Christ)

There is much more to this, but it is not worth getting into as each "degree" takes at least a year to experience and understand. Let alone explain in one response on a forum

The combination of this external (Solar) and internal (Moon) duality is that if referred to as "Solo-mon, the Solar-moon"

By the 32nd degree, you are supposed to have an understanding of the layers of the temple and their seat upon the throne, that allows them to project their will within alignment to the physical world around them, in a way where the world is not only perceived as the "external body" duality to their "internal body", but it also behaves as an extension of their physical conscious

The conscious mind of the 32nd degree, should be able to influence the world by mere consideration

At least, within the Illuminated orders, where are taught the dimensional alignments of every degree within a process that mirrors us across both the higher and lower dimensional spectrums (the lesser and greater mysteries)

The reality with Freemasonry however, is that most are completely unaware of the original esoteric meaning of the traditions that modern Freemasonry is based upon

For the most part, their understanding is strictly philosophical

Like the story of Hiram Abiff, and the writing of the Biblical texts themselves that it is based upon, they did their best to reconstruct the knowledge written in stone, without any amongst them who had experienced the processes in order to understand what the writings and wisdom were supposed to mean

A good example of this, is within the first degree, where they say an Initiate is clothed in a point hat, with an apron and a type of skirt which cascades out from the hips like a kilt

What is being described in the texts these traditions originated from, is an understanding taught to Illuminated initiates of the structure of the electromagnetic forces and toroidal equilibrium which surrounds them. Specifically, as it relates to their ability to align with the atmosphere of the world surrounding them

Within such, Illuminated initiates are taught of the electromagnetic vortex surrounding their head, stretching up into the atmosphere in a point. Likewise, of the "Xylon" structure that drapes outwards to the ground surrounding them

They have translated these texts to be referring to actual clothing. Something they dress up on to recreate in their rituals and ceremonies

This is an example of the difference between the philosophical degree systems like Freemasonry, and the dimensional degree systems of the Illuminated orders of the original mystery schools

Everything that is done symbolically within Freemasonry, is based upon something that Illuminated initiates go through for real

This includes death and "resurrection"

This experience of really going through these things, is the difference between "knowing" the secrets of the mysteries, and genuinely understanding them

Genuine initiates are happy to share whatever people would like to know, if it is possible for them to understand it

This is the essence of the Aquarian water-bearer, carrying forth his bucket of water, and being shown planting seeds in the backs of others heads

The thing that most people need to remember when it comes to Freemasonry, is that for the most part, most Freemasons have little to no actual understanding of the esoteric meaning behind their traditions

There are esoteric Freemasons and lodges amongst them, who know more than most

But most Freemasons you meet, have no real esoteric understanding to offer

Many, do not even think it exists to be offered

Most do not even know there are still Illuminated orders of the original mystery schools that their traditions are based upon that still exist today

They will tell you that we are a myth

Again, only the more esoteric Masons and lodges know that a real initiation process exists

My point is that Freemasonry is not the society of secrecy that it is portrayed to be, because they are all keeping esoteric knowledge secret

It's because most don't actually know anything, to be able to offer it

For the most part, they are just a brotherhood of men, seeking to be better men tomorrow than they were yesterday

They are not the enemy every portrays them to be

Though there may be those amongst them who act as an enemy of the greater collective. Theie influence is limited to physical alignments like money. Meaning they are of no real consequence in the grander scheme of the long count cycles

So they need not ever be feared, no respected if they have not earned it

The paths of order are usually for those without a strong natural alignment of their own

They are little different to religion, offering alignment through association

They are not the bad guys. They just have no way to explain that to people who fear them, so they don't bother
 
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