My issue with Urantia

[wil]

URANTIA is not infallible

Why not?

 

[LuisMarco]

Why not?

you have to read it or see it partially, to know it...

 

[wil]

you have to read it or see it partially, to know it...

By refusing to answer you lost my interest

As I said, read much of it in the in the 70s running a round with all the new age stuff trying to replace conventional religions ... they were also devoid of answering questions and actual discussion, preferring to villianize anyone who probed.

Shame to see it's promoters and adherents haven't changed tactics in half a century (of course following in the steps of many religionists who have been doing similar for centuries)

 

[LuisMarco]

perhaps, as the christian you are, @Thomas, you might like this, from URANTIA (who knows):
(emphasis mine):

195:9.8 The world needs more firsthand religion. Even Christianity — the best of the religions of the twentieth century — is not only a religion about Jesus, but it is so largely one which men experience secondhand. They take their religion wholly as handed down by their accepted religious teachers. What an awakening the world would experience if it could only see Jesus as he really lived on earth and know, firsthand, his life-giving teachings! Descriptive words of things beautiful cannot thrill like the sight thereof, neither can creedal words inspire men's souls like the experience of knowing the presence of God. But expectant faith will ever keep the hope-door of man's soul open for the entrance of the eternal spiritual realities of the divine values of the worlds beyond.

 

[LuisMarco]

and for Everyone:
URANTIA:

196:1.3 To "follow Jesus" means to personally share his religious faith and to enter into the spirit of the Master's life of unselfish service for man. One of the most important things in human living is to find out what Jesus believed, to discover his ideals, and to strive for the achievement of his exalted life purpose. Of all human knowledge, that which is of greatest value is to know the religious life of Jesus and how he lived it.

 

[wil]

and for Everyone

Lol

 

[Thomas]

perhaps, as the christian you are, @Thomas, you might like this, from URANTIA (who knows):

OK. Let me comment:

Even Christianity — the best of the religions of the twentieth century — is not only a religion about Jesus, but it is so largely one which men experience secondhand.
Well at least it can be experienced, whereas Urantia can only be read about?

And if the author thinks religious experience is necessarily second-hand, then the author has never had a religious experience.

They take their religion wholly as handed down by their accepted religious teachers.
LOL. Much like adherents of Urantia!

What an awakening the world would experience if it could only see Jesus as he really lived on earth and know, firsthand, his life-giving teachings!
Again, rather crass assumption on the author's part. But we have Scripture. We know.

Descriptive words of things beautiful cannot thrill like the sight thereof, neither can creedal words inspire men's souls like the experience of knowing the presence of God.
Every journey begins with the first step, my friend.

But expectant faith will ever keep the hope-door of man's soul open for the entrance of the eternal spiritual realities of the divine values of the worlds beyond.
Yep. Faith, Hope and Love – the theological virtues ... again, nothing said here has not been said before, and said better.

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Tell me, bearing in mind that we can only speculate on the human authors of the Urantia Book, and we are not in touch with the 'sources', that the original materials, the first and second drafts of the book were, for some reason, destroyed, it seems to me a reader of the book is as dependent on more than a 'second hand' account ... so hardly in a position to comment on perceived failings of Christianity.

And, btw, in talking of 'religious experience' – which is synonymous with 'mystical experience' and 'spiritual experience' – it's clear the author has no real or informed insight into the authentic states, but bases all his/her/their critique on local mental disorders.