I converted to Jehovah's Witnesses

[walter]

Do the JW's here concur? Is this statement a good summary of your beliefs about the afterlife and the resurrections?

I will put together some scriptures so we will get a Biblical viewpoint on these Bible subjects.

 

[walter]

Summary for those who sleep: Genesis 3:19 "until you return to the ground, since you were taken from it. For you are dust, and you will return to dust.” Daniel 12:2 "those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake" Psalms 37:29 "But the righteous shall inherit the earth, and dwell upon it for ever" Psalms 37:11 "But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace." John 12:48 The one who rejects Me and does not accept My teachings has one who judges him: the word which I spoke. That will judge him on the last day. John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Summary for those who shall not sleep, the little flock who goes to Heaven who shares in the first resurrection: Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom" 1 Cor 15:51-53 "We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed" Hebrews 3:1 "so, dear brothers and sisters who belong to God and are partners with those called to heaven" Luke 22:28-30 "And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred one on me, 30 so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." Rev 20:5-6 "Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over these; they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for [the] thousand years."

 

[walter]

Do the JW's here concur? Is this statement a good summary of your beliefs about the afterlife and the resurrections?

Shouldn't we look for as many scriptures as we can find on a Bible subject, to form a more complete understanding?

 

[RabbiO]

Shouldn't we look for as many scriptures as we can find on a Bible subject, to form a more complete understanding?

Don't you think a better idea would be to provide a succinct summary of JW beliefs and then, if asked, provide the citations to those scriptures that JWs believe provide the basis for those beliefs?

 

[walter]

Don't you think a better idea would be to provide a succinct summary of JW beliefs and then, if asked, provide the citations to those scriptures that JWs believe provide the basis for those beliefs?

Jehovah's Witnesses believe the Father gives a little flock a kingdom, these ones that are given a kingdom will be judging the 12 tribes of Israel, they shall not all sleep those called to heaven, they are raised in the first resurrection, these will be priests of God and Christ and they will reign with him for [the] thousand years.

Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom"
Luke 22:28-30 "And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred one on me, 30 so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."
1 Cor 15:51-53 "We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed" Hebrews 3:1 "so, dear brothers and sisters who belong to God and are partners with those called to heaven"
Rev 20:5-6 "Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over these; they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for [the] thousand years."

 

[moralorel]

I will put together some scriptures so we will get a Biblical viewpoint on these Bible subjects.

How about you just answer specific questions? First question. The 144,000. Are they truly resurrected spirit individuals or are they physical beings saved on earth from the tribulation?

 

[walter]

How about you just answer specific questions? First question. The 144,000. Are they truly resurrected spirit individuals or are they physical beings saved on earth from the tribulation?

- Inheritance in the heavens: 1 Peter 1:3-4, Hebrews 3:1, Philippians 3:14 
- 144,000 sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel. Revelation 7:4
- 144,000 who have been bought from the earth. Revelation 14:3
- Jesus said to his disciples they will judge the 12 tribes of Israel. Luke 22:28-30
- the one who shares in the first resurrection... they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for [the] thousand years." Rev 20:6

Summary: The Bible talks about two inheritances and two different resurrections - one on Earth and one in Heaven. The Bible talks about 144,000 sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel and also these 144,000 have been bought from the earth, and these ones will do judging and they will be priest of God and of Christ.

Sorry I could not answer your question any better. I don't know but if the 144,000 we're bought from the earth, doesn't that explain that this number comes from the humans that lived on the earth?

 

[walter]

- Inheritance in the heavens: 1 Peter 1:3-4, Hebrews 3:1, Philippians 3:14 
- 144,000 sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel. Revelation 7:4
- 144,000 who have been bought from the earth. Revelation 14:3
- Jesus said to his disciples they will judge the 12 tribes of Israel. Luke 22:28-30
- the one who shares in the first resurrection... they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for [the] thousand years." Rev 20:6

Summary: The Bible talks about two inheritances and two different resurrections - one on Earth and one in Heaven. The Bible talks about 144,000 sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel and also these 144,000 have been bought from the earth, and these ones will do judging and they will be priest of God and of Christ.

Sorry I could not answer your question any better. I don't know but if the 144,000 we're bought from the earth, doesn't that explain that this number comes from the humans that lived on the earth?

It seems like the ones that have a upward call have some things in common: -they have a Heavenly inheritance -they don't sleep in death -they are bought from the Earth -they do judging and are priests of God and Christ -the Bible speaks about a little flock that the father approves and gives them a kingdom -these ones share in the first resurrection. Also Jesus and the 144,000 Are referred to as first fruits Revelation 14:3-5 ---- all these scriptures seem to be relevant to each other, but it would take somebody a lot smarter than me to understand this subject.