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Where do the popes go when they die?
John Paul died recently and according to his current successor, who was his previous trusted aide..."John Paul is in heaven looking down, and blessing the faithful form his papal window in heaven". If this is true; are all the other 263 popes at their own individual papal windows; or do they take turns at the one assigned heavenly papal window!
Just let us assume that all the popes are in heaven. Do they all bless the faithful on earth alongside God; or do they bless the faithful on earth despite God!
And John Paul for instance; does he look down on the faithful as they file by his dead corpse lying in the crypt below St.Peter's?
And when the faithful pray to one or other of their saints, presumably in heaven; does the particular saint represent the petiton of the faithful to one or other of the 264 popes in heaven; or does the particular saint represent the petitioner's request to Mary; and Mary to Jesus; or does the saint to which the request is presented, go directly to Jesus on behalf of the petitioner?
And what about all the faithful who died, and themselves are in heaven; do they also look down on their own dead corpses? And in heaven; to whom do they direct their devotion; do they direct their devotion to the siants, to the popes, to Mary, or to Jesus?
Though some may think the questions trivial; please do not make the mistake to so think. The official teaching of the Roman Catholic church makes praying to those they proclaim saints a doctrine they encourage that the faithful follow. Praying to Mary is also official doctrine of the Roman Catholic church. Since one cannot pray to a DEAD CORPSE then those supposedly in heaven must be alive...and if they are alive and can hear the prayers of the faithful then they must also be able to "see" seeing they can "hear". This makes them also able to see their own dead corpses on earth as they walk around in heaven.
The question must still be asked, however; what about the popes who supervised the Inquisition and the Crusades and the killing of hundreds of thousands of Christians whom they proclaimed "heretics". One must suppose those Christians are either in heaven with the popes are they are in hell.
But how could those Christians be in the same place with those who killed them? So either the Christians are in heaven and the popes in hell; or the popes are in heaven and the Chrisitans are in hell...but they both cannot be in the same place; be that place heaven or hell.
Where then do you think the martyrd Christians are? Are they in heaven, hell or the cold grave in which they were laid when they gave up their lives for the cause of their Saviour? Which also begs the question...Where then are the popes?
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John Paul died recently and according to his current successor, who was his previous trusted aide..."John Paul is in heaven looking down, and blessing the faithful form his papal window in heaven". If this is true; are all the other 263 popes at their own individual papal windows; or do they take turns at the one assigned heavenly papal window!
Just let us assume that all the popes are in heaven. Do they all bless the faithful on earth alongside God; or do they bless the faithful on earth despite God!
And John Paul for instance; does he look down on the faithful as they file by his dead corpse lying in the crypt below St.Peter's?
And when the faithful pray to one or other of their saints, presumably in heaven; does the particular saint represent the petiton of the faithful to one or other of the 264 popes in heaven; or does the particular saint represent the petitioner's request to Mary; and Mary to Jesus; or does the saint to which the request is presented, go directly to Jesus on behalf of the petitioner?
And what about all the faithful who died, and themselves are in heaven; do they also look down on their own dead corpses? And in heaven; to whom do they direct their devotion; do they direct their devotion to the siants, to the popes, to Mary, or to Jesus?
Though some may think the questions trivial; please do not make the mistake to so think. The official teaching of the Roman Catholic church makes praying to those they proclaim saints a doctrine they encourage that the faithful follow. Praying to Mary is also official doctrine of the Roman Catholic church. Since one cannot pray to a DEAD CORPSE then those supposedly in heaven must be alive...and if they are alive and can hear the prayers of the faithful then they must also be able to "see" seeing they can "hear". This makes them also able to see their own dead corpses on earth as they walk around in heaven.
The question must still be asked, however; what about the popes who supervised the Inquisition and the Crusades and the killing of hundreds of thousands of Christians whom they proclaimed "heretics". One must suppose those Christians are either in heaven with the popes are they are in hell.
But how could those Christians be in the same place with those who killed them? So either the Christians are in heaven and the popes in hell; or the popes are in heaven and the Chrisitans are in hell...but they both cannot be in the same place; be that place heaven or hell.
Where then do you think the martyrd Christians are? Are they in heaven, hell or the cold grave in which they were laid when they gave up their lives for the cause of their Saviour? Which also begs the question...Where then are the popes?
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