- Reaction score
- London, UK, Malkhut she'be'Assiyah
first of all, i've had the wrong end of the stick. you meant the tamar from genesis, i was talking about the tamar who gets raped by amnon in 1 kings. sorry for the confusion.
that's as may be, but it's a bit tenuous, considering that the symbology of the palm tree within judaism is not necessarily the same. i'd need more than the general theme of "love and birth" - that's not what the Torah account is concerned with. incidentally, a palm tree is "tomer" - "tamar" is a date, but it's still the same link. you might like to look at the story of deborah in judges.Tamar means "palm tree" which was sacred to the love and birth goddess Isis or Ishtar among the Arabs. Arabians worshipped the great palm of Nejran by draping it with woman's clothes and ornaments.
oh, graves, i getcha. however, she waits by a crossroads. i'd expect a *sacred* prostitute to be somewhere else, a temple or a grove (possibly a palm grove even). mind you, the word used for prostitute here is linked to the word used for "holy", so you could well be right.In the original story, it is suggested by Graves Tamar would have been a sacred prostitute unrelated to Judah.
but why amorite particularly as opposed to anyone else? that's the bit i don't understand. and as far as scarlet threads are concerned, why not song of songs 4:3? the other scarlet thread that occurs to me is the one from the scapegoat ceremony. also, a different word for prostitute is used, which doesn't have the "sacred" connotations.She is linked to Rahab by mention of the scarlet thread. Was she a definite Amorite? No, but most likely.
yes, indeed - that's one of the sources for the link between the davidic messiah and the josephic messiah. both came out of controversial marriages - in fact the same is true of boaz-ruth and david-batsheva. so that might indeed be a reason to suggest that tamar had been a temple prostitute at some point. very interesting indeed. the tradition also suggests that one explanation of this episode is that in Torah time the obligation of levirate marriage ("yibum") would have fallen on judah rather than his son (his wife having died) and that he was evading his responsibility. tamar, therefore, is by this logic justified in resorting to this stratagem to force him to marry her.Tamar is said to have the gift of prophecy and knew her seed would be the future messiah. There is a story which claims Potiphar's wife wanted to have twins via Joseph as did Tamar.