Mankind consisted,
approximately 18.5 million years ago (sic), of a cyclopean
`Giant,' described variously in the Judaeo-Christian scriptures as either
nephilim, gibborim, or grigori. These can be researched on Wikipedia for more detail ... but I keep generally to the idea that these records
are not mere superstition, or pure guesswork, or even simply some kind or oral, or allegorical tradition. I believe that these accounts are providing us with
literal enough indications.
Prior to 18 1/2 million years ago, our stature would have been greater,
presumably much greater ... although here, I do question just how literal the indications really are. If I was told that our stature was as much as 100 feet high, I would not put this beyond possibility. We
were not physical prior to this time, and for insight into our physical stature or appearance during this time I turn to
other Sacred Scriptures ...
eg, The Secret Doctrine, by H.P. Blavatsky.
Blavatsky based her testimony, and the accounts she provided, upon a collation of various works that were available in the period of the 1880s from a number of fields, including anthropology, religious testimony, various philosophical teachings, and even the fledgling theory of Darwinian Evolution & other geological evidence. She was not given to
wild speculations ...
or to the fabrication of evidence. Some will disagree,
because they have heard or read this somewhere, yet this only displays an ignorance of her
scholarship, and of her intimate acquaintance with the facts she was presenting.
Blavatsky
was a firsthand witness to many of the subjects she was discussing, when it comes to the teachings regarding early Humanity. While many skeptics still will not even
admit of the mere
existence of such proven abilities as
genuine clairvoyance and
psychometry ... this has not stopped numerous individuals
gifted with these abilities from carrying out their research in recent decades and centuries. In some cases, careful records were even made, though not all of these are strictly along lines relevant to this topic. Some, however,
are. And I have read a selection of this type of account, by various authors of differing philosophical mindset and religious background, and also of varying acquaintance with scientific research & terminology.
I have had to disregard some of what I've read, or else relegate it to the "back shelf" until some future time as it either becomes of interest again, or begins to fit with the greater portion of my understanding. Some several accounts, on the other hand, have
rung true ... and I decided this not simply because each investigator's findings or methods fully corroborated another's (as in many cases, this is not quite so) - but rather, because of the larger picture, and framework, into which all these accounts came to fit. In short, it is like a
mosaic, many of whose pieces are missing,
yet the vast majority of which does present itself - to each and every one of us who will give honest, unbiased inquiry.
I can safely say all of this, not simply because I have some deep,
comfortably held, inner conviction ... but because, simply put, I have "checked the facts" of my own accord,
to the best of my current ability, and despite some rather notable pieces of the mosaic that are
conspicuous by their absence (!) ... there is
not even so much missing as the mysterious "LINK" - which scientists will
NEVER find, owing to the fact that it
does not exist.
To make short shrift of notions that will only be superstition to some, I believe it is safe to say that, even 18.5 million years ago, mankind was (from one point of view)
already a race millions of years old, having begun her trek upon the present Earth globe in superphyscial states of matter altogether! We have the
Divine Progenitors to thank for this, the various
Pitris (Sanskrit,
`Fathers') of Hindu Scriptures. These include the agnishvattas and
barhishads, these being directly relevant to the early times I am mentioning.
At about 18.5 million years ago, something momentous occurred. The cause, and details, is a somewhat lengthy account, and can be found both in Blavatksy's
Secret Doctrine, yet also in the various writings of Alice Bailey, notably
A Treatise on Cosmic Fire. Many, many other authors have elucidated on the accounts provided therein, but the only souce that occurs to me of a
slightly less esoteric nature ... is the Popol Vuh. Blavatsky makes
ample reference to the Popol Vuh, of course, so certainly it does not stand alone. The contributions of
many of the Native traditions of South America also back up Blavatksy's claims, and teachings.
There is a
precise date given (see below) by one of the Eastern Teachers, in the writings of Alice Bailey, for the "
Occult Appearance" of Humanity upon this planet, the 4th Kingdom in nature. It is to be understood that
prior to this time, we were still technically a part of the animal kingdom - and this is understandable if you consider the definition of the word
`Individualization' as it appears below. In short, this means that a given
animal has become
so evolved through the long cycles of birth and rebirth
which govern all lives in manifest existence (so said the Buddha) ... that this animal ceases to belong to a "group soul" - and is esoterically
imparted with a Soul of its own. It is not that the evolving animal was devoid of an
ensouling principle up until that point. Rather, Idividualization has to do with the activity of consciousness upon the higher portions of the
mental plane ... and it marks a
definite shift of focus for the evolving entity. The date given refers to an event of
greater planetary significance than any that has since occurred - save for the present time, and the transformation now affecting large portions of Humanity ... on a much higher turn of the evolutionary spiral.
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]"I earlier gave a hint upon which definite astrological computation could be based when I gave the time of the "Great Approach" of the Hierarchy to our planetary manifestation when individualization took place and the fourth kingdom in nature appeared. I placed that stupendous event as happening 21,688,345 years ago. [as of ~1945] At that time the Sun was in Leo. The process then initiated upon the physical plane and producing outer physical events took approximately 5,000 years to mature and the Sun was in Gemini when the final crisis of individualization took place and the door was then closed upon the animal kingdom." (Esoteric Astrology, p.64)[/FONT]
I would also commend
the following article in its entirety as most useful on this subject, as it is a relatively short compilation which draws from many of the sources I mention,
and others. I have not read it from start to finish, but every paragraph is like a pearl of wisdom to me ... and will
surely raise at least a few eyebrows, even among the most skeptical! It goes into much more depth than I can - even were I try and make this one of my mammoth posts! (err, which I was not, or so I thought
)
At any rate, the date of 18.5 million years is usually given (which seems a full 3 million years off from the above!) as being the
concretization of early humanity into the Lemurian
'giants' of the Bible. These were easily 12 or 15 feet tall, although I think I have seen references to 18 feet. The reason I think we may have been 100 feet tall or more prior to this (in etheric, or astral substance) ... is twofold. One, there are the statues on Easter Island. I cannot prove that these were meant as
literal indications of our relative stature ... but
nor can you disprove it.
And second, the
statues at Bamiyan/Bamian (Afghanistan) were built as indications of our gradual diminishing over time, across the
Five Main Races that have comprised our Humanity. Two of these were non-physical altogether, and these were indicated by the largest two statues, not destroyed by the Taliban. I believe a 3rd statue
was actually discovered, also being of large stature, though not nearly as much as the largest two. This would indicate Lemurian man, as in the excerpt quoted above, and at the time period of ~21.6 million (or 18.5 million?) years ago, when Individualization occurred, and when we took truly physical form. I might suggest that the latter date (18.5 mya) corresponds to full concretization, while the older date (21.6 mya) refers to Individualization. Just a guess. The final two statues, representing Atlantean and Aryan Humanity, would not be large at all! No small wonder they may be difficult to locate ...
Atlantis existed some several million years ago, though it was already on the decline a million years ago. They
flew vimanas ... and this
hardly sounds like stupid, Cro-magnon or Neanderthal
cavemen.
As Graham Hancock says,
"We are a race suffering from amnesia." The problem is, some are unwilling to apply the smelling salts ...
Another quote from the writings of Alice Bailey along these lines is useful (again, from the article linked above, and
here):
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]History, as studied today, goes back but a little way and although the enlightened historian and scientist may extend the story of humanity to millions of years, there is naught known about the races of men who lived those millions of years ago; naught is known of the civilization which flourished in early Atlantean times twelve million years ago; naught is known at all of the still more ancient Lemurian civilization which goes back more than fifteen million years; still less is known of that twilight period which existed twenty-one million years ago when men were scarcely human and when they were so closely related to the animal kingdom that we call them by the cumbersome name of "animal-man." (Esoteric Healing, p.226)
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No no, I'm afraid that all these many references, from these many sources, and the various leads I have tried to provide ... these
do not represent some scatterbrained notion, wild & unfounded speculation, or
superstitious reverie - on the part of historians and researchers
either old or new. They are plain, lucid testimony - sometimes involving considerable detail and
literally volumes of exposition ... and the reward for devoting onself to their study is more priceless than every piece of scientific instrumentation in this world put together, more valuable than a pile of religious treatises eight miles high. The real value, for me, is that doors have been opened which otherwise might have remained forever sealed - and mysteries sparked in my imagination and innermost curiosity ... which propel me onward, and elicit the keenest & sincerest interest.
I am no real scholar, just a fool with his ideas, and his books. How was it put, by Erasmus I believe ...
"When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left I buy food and clothes."
If I could recommend
one book only which would settle this question once & for all (granted, it may take a lifetime of study,
and it will leave ten thousand questions unanswered, where perhaps it settles
ten) ... it wouldbe
The Secret Doctrine, by H.P. Blavatsky (quite affordable, and an abridgement exists). Even just the 2nd Volume of said work (
Anthropogenesis) would suffice.
Even just a chapter or two, will recast this question, I am confident ... as most certainly it has, for me.
tajasi ... verbose mode, it would seem 
