Modern day Gog and Magog
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That was His intention.. blessed are those that wait for His return
Thats still not addressing the fact that for the first time in history the nation of Israel has the land God promised them... the fact that they are called a nation with NO land for their most of their existance is unheard of.. yet we all know who the Jews are... This is the first time in history that the entire world can witness whats going on in the middle east and will see the prophecies fulfilled.. Daniel predicted that knowledge will increase.. the rate our knowledge increases in enormous.. Transportation will increase.. first time in history that we can cross the world in a day.. wars and rumors of wars... we have horrible crises all over the world constantly... do you realize that an entire generation is being wiped out by AIDs in Africa.. The "Biggest" of everything is happening and increasingly getting worst.. These are all birth pangs and man.. let me tell you when you labor.. those last set of contractions hurt bad..
Time is short.. Its kind of weird but most of the body of Christ right now is feeling it.. like a big breath before that last push..
wil.. dont miss it. You only get one shot at this.. if you dont live for Christ today... you very well might die for Him tomorrow.. the tribulation saints are all martyred... I wish you could feel what I feel when I walk outside and literally feel the groanings of creation and I know the groaning because thats what I feel as I wait for the return of my Lord. Its such a physical and spiritual yearning.. my soul awaits Him. Its literally the feeling when your in love and you just want to be with that person... I just want to be with my Jesus.
I want everyone to feel this.. its a crescendo of emotion.. the more I anticipate the more I yearn for Him..
I love the Song of Solomon because its totally how I feel... I desire Him with all my being.. My Savior... My Lord.
He is wonderful................
During the upcoming great tribulation, culminating in Armageddon, Christ will war against all evil. But there will be no need for his followers to fight, even as this was unnecessary for the inhabitants of the two-tribe kingdom of Judah thousands of years ago. The battle belonged to Jehovah, and he gave the victory.
It was exactly as Jehovah had foretold: "You will not need to fight." (2 Chronicles 20:17) This sets the pattern for Christians to follow when Jesus Christ moves in "to complete his conquest." Meanwhile, they continue to fight evil, not with carnal weapons, but with spiritual ones. They thereby "keep conquering the evil with the good."—Romans 6:13; 12:17-21; 13:12; 2 Corinthians 10:3-5. we really are liiving in thrilling times.
What will servants of God be expected to do once they come under attack? Again, the reaction of God’s typical nation in the days of Jehoshaphat sets the pattern. Note that its citizens were commanded to do three things: (1) take their position, (2) stand still, and (3) see the salvation of Jehovah.
2 Chronicles 20:17.
It was exactly as Jehovah had foretold: "You will not need to fight." (2 Chronicles 20:17) This sets the pattern for Christians to follow when Jesus Christ moves in "to complete his conquest." Meanwhile, they continue to fight evil, not with carnal weapons, but with spiritual ones. They thereby "keep conquering the evil with the good."—Romans 6:13; 12:17-21; 13:12; 2 Corinthians 10:3-5. we really are liiving in thrilling times.
What will servants of God be expected to do once they come under attack? Again, the reaction of God’s typical nation in the days of Jehoshaphat sets the pattern. Note that its citizens were commanded to do three things: (1) take their position, (2) stand still, and (3) see the salvation of Jehovah.
2 Chronicles 20:17.
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Hi everybody. Salam and love form me.
Quran has also mentioned about Gog and Magog in two chapters, I give hereunder the account given in Chapter 18: Al-Kahf; I think it would be of interest to the members, and for special interest for those who think that Quran just copied from OTBible.
The Holy Quran : Chapter 18: Al-Kahf
[18:84] And they ask thee concerning Dhu'l Qarnain. Say, 'I will recite to you something of his account.'
[18:85] We established him in the earth and gave him the means to achieve everything.
[18:86] The he followed a certain way.
[18:87] Until when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting as if in a pool of murky water, and near it he found a people. We said, 'O Dhu'l Qarnain, you may punish them, or treat them with kindness.'
[18:88] He said, 'As for him who does wrong, we shall certainly punish him; then shall he be brought back to his Lord, who will punish him with a dreadful punishment;
[18:89] 'But as for him who believes and act righteously, he will have a good reward with his Lord, and We too shall speak to him easy words of Our command.'
[18:90] Then indeed he followed another way.
[18:91] Until he reached the rising-place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had made no shelter against it.
[18:92] Thus indeed it was. Verily, We had full knowledge of all that he had with him.
[18:93] Then he followed another way.
[18:94] Until when he reached the open place between the two mountain mountains, he found, beneath them a people who could scarcely understand a word of what he said.
[18:95] They said, 'O Dhu'l Qarnain, verily, Gog and Magog are creating disorder in the earth; shall we then pay tribute on condition that thou set up a barrier between us and them?'
[18:96] He replied, 'The power with which my Lord has endowed me about this is better than the resources of my enemies but you may help me with strength of labourers, I will set up a rampart between you and them;
[18:97] 'Bring me blocks of iron.' They did so till, when he had filled up the space between the two mountains sides, he said, 'Now blow with your bellows.' They blew till, when he had made it red as fire, he said, 'Bring me molten copper that I may pour it thereon.'
[18:98] So they (Gog and Magog) were not able to scale it, nor were they able to dig through it.
[18:99] Thereupon he said, 'This is a mercy from my Lord. But when the promise of my Lord shall come to pass, He will break it into pieces. And the promise of my Lord is certainly true.'
[18:100] And on that day We shall leave some of them to surge against others, and the trumpet will be blown. Then shall We gather them all together.
[18:101] And on that day We shall present Hell, face to face, to the disbelievers
[18:102] Whose eyes were under a veil, not heeding My reminder and they could not even afford to hear.
[18:103] Do the disbelievers think that they can take My servants as protectors instead of ME? Surely, We have prepared Hell as an entertainment for the disbelievers.
[18:104] Say, 'Shall We tell you of those who are the greatest losers in respect of their works.'
[18:105]'Those whose labour is all lost in pursuit of the life of this world, and yet they imagine that they are doing good works.'
[18:106] Those are they who deny the Signs of their Lord and the meeting with Him. So their works are vain, and on the Day of Resurrection We shall give them no weight.
[18:107] That is their reward - Hell; because they disbelieved, and made a jest of My Signs and My Messengers.
[18:108] Surely, those who believe and act righteously, will have Gardens of Paradise for an abode,
[18:109] Wherein they will abide; having no desire to be removed therefrom.
[18:110] Say, 'If every ocean become ink for the words of my Lord, surely, the ocean would be exhausted before the words of my Lord were exhausted, even though We brought the like thereof as further help.'
[18:111] Say, I am but a man like yourselves; but it is revealed to me that your God is One God. So let him who hopes to meet his Lord, do good deeds, and let him join no one in the worship of his Lord.
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Thank you
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam, working for unity of the Abrahamic religions with reason, arguments and rationality.
Quran has also mentioned about Gog and Magog in two chapters, I give hereunder the account given in Chapter 18: Al-Kahf; I think it would be of interest to the members, and for special interest for those who think that Quran just copied from OTBible.
The Holy Quran : Chapter 18: Al-Kahf
[18:84] And they ask thee concerning Dhu'l Qarnain. Say, 'I will recite to you something of his account.'
[18:85] We established him in the earth and gave him the means to achieve everything.
[18:86] The he followed a certain way.
[18:87] Until when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting as if in a pool of murky water, and near it he found a people. We said, 'O Dhu'l Qarnain, you may punish them, or treat them with kindness.'
[18:88] He said, 'As for him who does wrong, we shall certainly punish him; then shall he be brought back to his Lord, who will punish him with a dreadful punishment;
[18:89] 'But as for him who believes and act righteously, he will have a good reward with his Lord, and We too shall speak to him easy words of Our command.'
[18:90] Then indeed he followed another way.
[18:91] Until he reached the rising-place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had made no shelter against it.
[18:92] Thus indeed it was. Verily, We had full knowledge of all that he had with him.
[18:93] Then he followed another way.
[18:94] Until when he reached the open place between the two mountain mountains, he found, beneath them a people who could scarcely understand a word of what he said.
[18:95] They said, 'O Dhu'l Qarnain, verily, Gog and Magog are creating disorder in the earth; shall we then pay tribute on condition that thou set up a barrier between us and them?'
[18:96] He replied, 'The power with which my Lord has endowed me about this is better than the resources of my enemies but you may help me with strength of labourers, I will set up a rampart between you and them;
[18:97] 'Bring me blocks of iron.' They did so till, when he had filled up the space between the two mountains sides, he said, 'Now blow with your bellows.' They blew till, when he had made it red as fire, he said, 'Bring me molten copper that I may pour it thereon.'
[18:98] So they (Gog and Magog) were not able to scale it, nor were they able to dig through it.
[18:99] Thereupon he said, 'This is a mercy from my Lord. But when the promise of my Lord shall come to pass, He will break it into pieces. And the promise of my Lord is certainly true.'
[18:100] And on that day We shall leave some of them to surge against others, and the trumpet will be blown. Then shall We gather them all together.
[18:101] And on that day We shall present Hell, face to face, to the disbelievers
[18:102] Whose eyes were under a veil, not heeding My reminder and they could not even afford to hear.
[18:103] Do the disbelievers think that they can take My servants as protectors instead of ME? Surely, We have prepared Hell as an entertainment for the disbelievers.
[18:104] Say, 'Shall We tell you of those who are the greatest losers in respect of their works.'
[18:105]'Those whose labour is all lost in pursuit of the life of this world, and yet they imagine that they are doing good works.'
[18:106] Those are they who deny the Signs of their Lord and the meeting with Him. So their works are vain, and on the Day of Resurrection We shall give them no weight.
[18:107] That is their reward - Hell; because they disbelieved, and made a jest of My Signs and My Messengers.
[18:108] Surely, those who believe and act righteously, will have Gardens of Paradise for an abode,
[18:109] Wherein they will abide; having no desire to be removed therefrom.
[18:110] Say, 'If every ocean become ink for the words of my Lord, surely, the ocean would be exhausted before the words of my Lord were exhausted, even though We brought the like thereof as further help.'
[18:111] Say, I am but a man like yourselves; but it is revealed to me that your God is One God. So let him who hopes to meet his Lord, do good deeds, and let him join no one in the worship of his Lord.
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Thank you
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam, working for unity of the Abrahamic religions with reason, arguments and rationality.