Commitment? To an Institution?The difference between this
may have more to do with the individuals' level of conscious commitment than with a cynical institutional process.
What an utterly meaningless idea.... such talk is what convinces me that to be religious you have to embrace some level of insanity.
According to Paul, the physical body is spiritualized. I suspect you can find the relevant Corinthians passage as quickly as I can.
Alas, "noosphere, zeitgeist or collective psyche of the Christian community" don't seem very musical either.Maybe then it'll start sounding more like . . . music to the ears . . .
Is that in reference to the mother-goddess who keeps herself carefully concealed in illusion?As an aside, just because terminology is "old fashioned" doesn't mean it's not useful. The concept of Divine Immanence is not something that was introduced to world religion by Jesus. In the introduction to the Isha Upanishad you will find reference to the world being "clothed" or "worn as a garment" by G-d (वास्यम् or vasyam). The notion of being on the inside is key.
To me that is still a useful description, which probably dates back to Vedas that are five or six thousand years old. The ancient texts are ambiguous, especially given faulty translations, but the theology may still be useful. It probably depends on the context of the discussion whether the language has any immediate value.
To get back to the original theme. I don't know if there is need for a new religion. Maybe it's more a matter of making existing traditions more functional?.....
Like I said though I am fuzzy on just where to draw the line around God or the Universe.
I have read that the Sikh religion's God is sufficiently fuzzy to be simultaneously a monotheistic creator God as well as something that is synonymous with the entirety of the Universe. Of course I have also read that the Sikhs are polytheists that while they believe in and worship one Supreme God also believe that other lesser Gods exist so I am not sure what to believe. I'd love to read their book "The Guru Granth Sahib" to see what they actually have to say and how they say it but it seems impossible to find a hard copy of the thing. (I hate reading things online.)
I suppose it could become a really interesting if you also throw Tao Te Ching 1 into the mix for comparison.
1 Corinthians 15 talks about the resurrection of the dead, as being sown as physical body and raised as a physical body, not about the Body of Christ.
Hi SG,Is that in reference to the mother-goddess who keeps herself carefully concealed in illusion?
It's too interesting already (and too time-consuming for me). We need to cut back on these ever more complicated discussions.I suppose it could become a really interesting if you also throw Tao Te Ching 1 into the mix for comparison.
There's a verse where he talks about the difference between a physical body and a spiritual body.1 Corinthians 15 talks about the resurrection of the dead, as being sown as physical body and raised as a physical body, not about the Body of Christ.
1Corinthians 12 talks about members of the body of Christ being dependent upon the Spirit to be baptized into it, and stresses the uniqueness each individual retains while being part of the Body of Christ:
12 For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. 14 For in fact the body is not one member but many.
27 Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually.
Cut and run?Hi SG,
The context relates to G-d dependence.
It's too interesting already (and too time-consuming for me). We need to cut back on these ever more complicated discussions.
Yes, that's 1 Corinthians 15:There's a verse where he talks about the difference between a physical body and a spiritual body.
Is this what you were referring to?...
44 sown a natural body, raised a spiritual body.
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: The first man Adam became a living being ; the last Adam became a life-giving Spirit. 46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual.