Stick with the religion you were born with??

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  1. Senthil

    Senthil Active Member

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    No doubt. But out of loyalty, I suppose you should take one last really sincere look at the one you were born into, not just go off on some whim.
     
  2. Gordian Knot

    Gordian Knot Being Deviant IS My Art.

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    There's an old saying - One doesn't get to choose their biological family; they do get to choose their personal family. A lot of the time the two are the same. Sometimes it is a little of both, and for some their personal family has nothing to do with the biological one.

    For me religion is like that. Chances are we are likely to be born into a family that practices a particular religion. We can choose to stick with that path, widen the path to include what we started with along with other philosophies that make sense. And sometimes we change theological paths completely.

    There is no correct path here, although there will be plenty who will want to tell you otherwise. In the end, if you are going to be true to yourself, the right answer for you is the one that suits you best.
     
  3. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    See, g!d gives us reason and compassion. If I were born into an Aryan Nation White Only Christianity, is there any reason or emotion to stay there? I think not. We are made to think and love, it is by reason and love that we should find our g!d.
     
  4. Nick the Pilot

    Nick the Pilot Well-Known Member

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    Some people say that, when something bad happens, we should bear our cross and suffer through it. I say that, when something bad happens, it is our 'cross to bear' to get out there and do something about it. Sticking with a religion that a person doesn't like is not a cross that anyone needs to bear.
     
  5. seattlegal

    seattlegal Why do cows say mu?

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    I really don't understand why people make such a big deal out of changing religions. I guess I'll just remain perplexed about it.
     
  6. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    Exactly SG. It is sort of like saying you have to root for the team of the city you were born into... Or the patriotic malarchy because we happen to be born here. Each and every entity needs to stand on its own and not simply due to loyal fans...
     
  7. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

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    As my bride says "they are just all the same".
     
  8. Nick the Pilot

    Nick the Pilot Well-Known Member

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    Wil,

    Your sports team example is a good analogy. Foolish and misguided loyalty can sometimes lead to a person's unhappiness. (And this is just as true of marriage as it is of religion!)
     
  9. Senthil

    Senthil Active Member

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    Of course. But that is an extreme example. It's like the old adage of respecting elders. Obviously not, if they are nutcases.
     
  10. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    Even if they are nut cases, treat them kindly. Who knows, I might turn to be one soon (I am 71).
     
  11. Nick the Pilot

    Nick the Pilot Well-Known Member

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    There is a form of psychological manipulation where people are manipulated into doing things because the person giving is orders is an authority figure. The idea is, "Don't do it because it is right or good, do it because our religious teacher is telling you to do it." Refusing to follow the authority figure's orders causes the person to feel guilty, and it is this guilt which is used to make the manipulation successful.

    I would like to recommend to everyone to watch a movie called Here Comes Mr. Jordan.

    Here Comes Mr. Jordan (1941) - IMDb

    First of all, this is a semi-religious movie, where a man dies, meets an angel whose job it is to escort him to heaven, and a fascinating adventure which ensues. It is a wonderful movie and I know everyone will enjoy it.

    In the movie, the angel keeps trying to use another angel, the 'head angel', as an authority figure, as a way of trying to manipulate the newly-dead man (Joe) into doing what the angel wants Joe to do. This a unique and very clever example of a manipulation that we usually do not think of as a manipulation. (Fortunately, Joe never succumbs to the angel's manipulations, and Joe ends up going on a fascinating adventure.) Please watch the movie and see how the angel is using this as a way to try to manipulate Joe into 'cooperating'. This is a very subtle manipulation indeed. (The angel also tries to use other manipulations -- see if you can spot them.)

    Saying that we should stick with the religion we were born with is exactly this type of manipulative appeal to an authority figure.
     
  12. christodoulos

    christodoulos Interfaith Forums

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    religion follows the tribe.
    religion is what keeps the tribe together.
    What an individual decides to do means little.
    Only what affects the group has any lasting importance.
    Follow the tribe.
     
  13. AstralGirly

    AstralGirly Astral Projection

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    I was born a Christian, fell of the wagon, than came back to god in later years.
     

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