Plethora of pointless posts

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  1. Netti-Netti

    Netti-Netti New Member

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    Yes, up to a point. There are normative rules of discourse and their violation is considered incompatible with the goals of dialogue. Extreme rudeness, insults, evasions, stuff like that are generally not desirable.

    Hey dream, what's the word count for that page? What part(s) are you referring to?

    People are ultimately unknowable. On the other hand, considering the fact that criminals are convicted based on what the legal system understands about their intentions, the notion of assessing of what's going on in people's minds is pretty obviously has legal legitimacy. And then there's psychological science.
     
  2. juantoo3

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    Very well then...

    Do you see such *omission of essential detail* as limited only to "right-wingers?"

    I see the left "selectively editing" evidence every bit as often as the right and for the same purposes.

    That's my podium pounding pontification, pending approval. :D
     
  3. Netti-Netti

    Netti-Netti New Member

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    No, but I would have to say that it's more likely to be most virulent.

    Example?
     
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    Tao_Equus Interfaith Forums

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    Almost invariably....yes.
     
  5. juantoo3

    juantoo3 ʎʇıɹoɥʇnɐ uoıʇsǝnb

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    To start, how about any of the discussions I've ever had with evolutionists over the discrepencies in evolutionary theory?

    Of course, one could make the argument that isn't exactly left versus right, but philosophically it is.

    If that is insufficient, I have seen multiple cases of wannabe new-age gurus make sweeping statements about various religions that are evidently to those more familiar with the particular religions seriously in error.

    Of course, one could make the argument that being a proponent of New Age idealism is not sufficient to denote left leaning tendencies...

    So we'll have to look at the political spectrum, and how Obama has made a political promise to bring change. We'll see, but so far I see only more of the same, merely a mirror image of the same old tired smoke filled back room good ol' boy stuff that has gone on for years and will continue for years more.

    In other words...more of the same. Where I come from, more of the same is not "change."
     
  6. juantoo3

    juantoo3 ʎʇıɹoɥʇnɐ uoıʇsǝnb

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    "I did not have sex with that woman."

    "I didn't inhale."

    "That depends what the definition of 'is' is."
     
  7. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    Well, heck. I suppose we could conduct a thought experiment: I could go join the Democratic Underground forums and see how long it takes me to get banned because I'm not a Democrat, and I could go join the Free Republic forum and see how long it takes me to get banned because I'm not a Republican. {Although I'll probably need psychotherapy afterwards to recover.} The point is, there are fascist elements on both sides who feel threatened by my decidedly libertarian leanings, and my refusal to buy into the two party fascist system.
     
  8. juantoo3

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    Dunno about that.

    I started a thread:

    http://www.interfaith.org/forum/the-warrior-philosophe-5259.html

    in response to another:

    http://www.interfaith.org/forum/the-great-cr-peace-nik-5224.html

    in part to demonstrate how "love" can be so hateful, how "tolerance" can be so intolerant, and how violent people can become in the pursuit of their ideal image of peace.

    I think I showed pretty succinctly how virulent peace niks can be. Please note, at no time did I engage on their dedicated thread. They came to mine.
     
  9. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    I stayed away from both of those threads. I'll add another pointless post to this Plethora of pointless posts thread in response to all the threads brought up and/or alluded to in this thread:


    Black Eyed Peas~Where is the Love?

    What's wrong with the world, mama
    People livin' like they ain't got no mamas
    I think the whole world addicted to the drama
    Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma
    Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism
    But we still got terrorists here livin'
    In the USA, the big CIA
    The Bloods and The Crypts and the KKK
    But if you only have love for your own race
    Then you only leave space to discriminate
    And to discriminate only generates hate
    And when you hate then you're bound to get irate, yeah
    Madness is what you demonstrate
    And that's exactly how anger works and operates
    Man, you gotta have love just to set it straight
    Take control of your mind and meditate
    Let your soul gravitate to the love, y'all, y'all

    People killin', people dyin'
    Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
    Can you practice what you preach
    And would you turn the other cheek

    Father, Father, Father help us
    Send some guidance from above
    'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
    Where is the love (Love)

    Where is the love (The love)
    Where is the love (The love)
    Where is the love
    The love, the love

    It just ain't the same, always unchanged
    New days are strange, is the world insane
    If love and peace is so strong
    Why are there pieces of love that don't belong
    Nations droppin' bombs
    Chemical gasses fillin' lungs of little ones
    With ongoin' sufferin' as the youth die young
    So ask yourself is the lovin' really gone
    So I could ask myself really what is goin' wrong
    In this world that we livin' in people keep on givin'
    in
    Makin' wrong decisions, only visions of them dividends
    Not respectin' each other, deny thy brother
    A war is goin' on but the reason's undercover
    The truth is kept secret, it's swept under the rug
    If you never know truth then you never know love
    Where's the love, y'all, come on (I don't know)
    Where's the truth, y'all, come on (I don't know)
    Where's the love, y'all

    People killin', people dyin'
    Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
    Can you practice what you preach
    And would you turn the other cheek

    Father, Father, Father help us
    Send some guidance from above
    'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
    Where is the love (Love)

    Where is the love (The love)
    Where is the love (The love)
    Where is the love (The love)
    Where is the love (The love)
    Where is the love, the love, the love?

    I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder
    As I'm gettin' older, y'all, people gets colder
    Most of us only care about money makin'
    Selfishness got us followin' our wrong direction
    Wrong information always shown by the media
    Negative images is the main criteria
    Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria
    Kids wanna act like what they see in the cinema
    Yo', whatever happened to the values of humanity
    Whatever happened to the fairness in equality
    Instead of spreading love we're spreading animosity
    Lack of understanding, leading lives away from unity
    That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under
    That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down
    There's no wonder why sometimes I'm feelin' under
    Gotta keep my faith alive till love is found
    Now ask yourself

    Where is the love?
    Where is the love?
    Where is the love?
    Where is the love?

    Father, Father, Father help us
    Send some guidance from above
    'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
    Where is the love?

    Sing wit me y'all:
    One world, one world (We only got)
    One world, one world (That's all we got)
    One world, one world
    And something's wrong wit it (Yeah)
    Something's wrong wit it (Yeah)
    Something's wrong wit the wo-wo-world, yeah
    We only got
    (One world, one world)
    That's all we got
    (One world, one world)


    YouTube - Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love?

    1. All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him, as the wheel follows the foot of the ox that draws the carriage.
    2. All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him.
    3. 'He abused me, he beat me, he defeated me, he robbed me,'--in those who harbour such thoughts hatred will never cease.
    4. 'He abused me, he beat me, he defeated me, he robbed me,'--in those who do not harbour such thoughts hatred will cease.
    5. For hatred does not cease by hatred at any time: hatred ceases by love, this is an old rule.
    ~Dhammmapada 1:1-5
     
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    LOL< guilty as charged. lol
     
  11. Dream

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    Post 134. Its just a pet peeve of mine that people sometimes resort to white boarding. Its a good indicator that they are filibustering a thread. I also hate double spacing and Captain Kirking, which is bombarding a thread with partial posts. I can see why you're ticked when somebody doesn't like what you post, and they seem morbidly obsessed with controlling not the content but the readability of a thread. It's just ridiculous, however I'm not sure if censoring or banning can fix it. The wild openness of space calls both settlers and pirates, and its just very hard to discern without shooting the settlers.
     
  12. Nick_A

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    Careful Juan, this is dangerously politically incorrect. you could be boiled in oil for asserting the intolerance of the tolerant speaking the virtues of toleration. It is intolerable regrdless of professed tolerance.
     
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    iBrian Peace, Love and Unity Admin

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    I've been bogged down with work the past few days so haven't been able to log on every day.

    However, I have been trying to make an effort to try and tone down any conflicts on the forums, and using the infraction system for this. I have no interest in seeing the forums over run by petty arguments.

    I do try to make the point of not trying to discriminate according to opinions, though, merely on the ability to be civil.

    It is sad, though, when sometimes forums like these - set up for interfaith discussions, both between faiths and for those looking for more information on specific faiths, also end up attracting people whose remit is just to argue against anybody of faith. Will keep an eye out.

    Regarding the censorship comment earlier as well - there was no censorship, merely the inability to respect other members by posting directly inflammatory messages regarding their faith. That's not tolerated for any faith anywhere on this board. Anyone who thinks otherwise is on the wrong website.

    It's funny - I'm the one making the big effort here to swallow my own opinions about any particular faith, allow others with often very different opinions and ideas to post them - and yet sometimes people invariably accuse me of showing favouritism, bias, or censorship - simply because concepts such as civility and mutual respect are difficult for them to grasp.

    I've always made the point that civility is the cornerstone of this forum, and it will remain so, as a moderated interfaith forum.

    There are plenty of places online for hate speech - but not here.
     
  14. Nick_A

    Nick_A Interfaith Forums

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    Brian, it is the classic problem with a secular site. Where a truly religious site will demand that people rise in their expression to be more respectful to a tradition that offers us something greater than ourselves, secularism strives to pull God down to our level and becoming a tool of politics. As you know, nothing is more partial than politics and its agendas further its paritiality and its associated hate speech. If you can figure a way around this natural tendency, you're a better man then I am since this intimidation is for some reason considered both normal and godly in much of the secular world.
     
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    Ill drink to that.
    :D
     
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    I had no expectation of getting any results. I was just making a point.

    Even now there is no discussion on the subject at issue. People insist on posting irrelevant and off topic information again and again.
     
  17. juantoo3

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    Perhaps it is the name of the thread?

    Of course, I did take a stab at the OP, and was encouraged to give an example of how the digressions were not limited to the "right wing." I see my examples were not well received. Or am I guilty by virtue of daring to respond?
     
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    Are we talking about this thread. I'm not.

    They were well received, My concern was about distracting from a current trend by looking at history, about which there is nothing I can do. As it turns out there's nothing I can do about the present trend either. So it seems there is actually not much left to say.

    Not at all. I'm just not sure where where to go from here. The top rung of the Interfaith.org is being dominated by discussions that (1) have nothing to do with the forum in which it has been placed [Religion, Faith, and Theology/Belief and Spirituality] and (2) have nothing to do with the subject introduced in the OP.
     
  19. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    Hey, if Resigned wants to hijack his own thread...you are free to call him on it. Generally, setting up a premise, and then knocking it down is known as a straw man fallacy. It carries little evidential weight (much like the thread to which you are referring.) ;)
     
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    Oh, I think I see. I realize the two of you are pretty seriously invested in that thread, but to be honest I was turned off by the title.

    What little I saw though, looked to me like a progression of dialogue or conversation. Such things tend to wander over time, it's the nature of the critter.

    I wish I could fix the problem, but I'm not really seeing a problem to fix. Allowing that I am a little dense and sometimes miss those subtle cues, is there something specific I should be looking for?
     

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