The Value of Humour

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Dont have time to write much but wanted to pose it before I forget....

Seems to me that humour is what defines it to feel free. Real personal freedom in the mind. In the west we have a rich and varied use of humour to make light of social, political and religious issues. I have seen here it stated that humour should not be irreverent or disrespectful. So what do you think? What is the value of humour?
 
Dont have time to write much but wanted to pose it before I forget....

Seems to me that humour is what defines it to feel free. Real personal freedom in the mind. In the west we have a rich and varied use of humour to make light of social, political and religious issues. I have seen here it stated that humour should not be irreverent or disrespectful. So what do you think? What is the value of humour?


Why so witty are Jews and African-Americans? I know!

“What must this people have suffered, that they might become thus beautiful?”—Nietzsche

Wit is about many things but power may be its most important characteristic. I think that Jews and African Americans are successful wits in our society because wit provides them both an escape from the world’s discrimination and because it provides the witty with power that serves as a defense against the strong hate and discrimination that the world showers on Jews and Blacks.

The other day I listened to an interview on NPR with Jerry Seinfeld. The interview took place many years ago before Seinfeld had made his appearance on the “Jerry Seinfeld” show. Jerry said something that surprised and impressed me. Jerry made it clear that he considers wit to be a very powerful force when welded in the hands of the comic.

Wit allows the comic to manipulate the audience into becoming completely in the control of the comic. The successful comic quickly grabs the audience and makes them her captive, which s/he can lead in whatever direction desired.

Freud wrote “Wit and the Unconscious” early in his career. This book is considered to be Freud’s most significant contribution to the theory of wit, which is, by extension, the theory of art.

In this book Freud “affirms the connection between art and the pleasure-principle…he also affirms the connection between art and childishness; however childishness is not a reproach, but the ideal kingdom of pleasure which art knows how to recover…with scant effort…Play on words—the technique of wit—is recovered when thought is allowed to sink into the unconscious…Freud’s analysis of wit invites extension to the whole domain of art.”

Psychoanalysis is about the nature of repression; the essential characteristic of the human psyche.

There is a constant conflict between the conscious and the unconscious. Societies repress the individual and the individual represses the self.

Neurotic behavior, dreams, and various “Freudian slips” provide us with e-mails from the unconscious that elude the conscious repression mechanism. These behavior characteristics are meaningful because they manifest the purpose of the unconscious that remains hidden from consciousness.

The conscious mind strenuously disowns and resists the rumblings of the unconscious. The conscious self disowns and resists its human nature.

Neurosis is the label given to these human phenomena of conflict between the conscious and unconscious self. All of us are neurotic to one degree or another. When this neurosis interferes with ‘normal’ human behavior then, and only then, does it require outside interference by society.

Universal neurosis is the analogy of “original sin” for theological doctrine.

In “Life against Death” Norman Brown develops, with the help of Freudian theory, a theory of art. There are no paradigms in art; the psychoanalytic themes in art offer a perspective in the doctrine of “there is no single meaning to any work of art”.
 
I think that humor is a way to say the things we're not supposed to say. It's a way to let the pressure off of taboos so that everything stays manageable. I remember an interview with either Cleese or Palin of Monty Python where he said that humor essentially adresses the seven deadly sins with cathartic blasphemy. I thought that was a pretty good description.

Chris
 
Humor often works where other methods fail to open you up to other perspectives. If you don't get the joke, you are probably fully locked into one perspective, or "stuck in a rut." Humor is one way to help you get out of that rut.
 
'one can know a man from his laugh and if you like a mans laugh before you know anything of him, you may confidently say that he is a good man'
Dostoyevsky 1821


'among those l like or admire l can find no common denominator but among those l love, l can; all of them make me laugh'
WH Auden 1907

'l will discipline with humour, which will lighten everyones life'
betty shine
 
"I was never crazy about Hitler...If you stand on a soapbox and trade rhetoric with a dictator you never win...That's what they do so well: they seduce people. But if you ridicule them, bring them down with laughter, they can't win. You show how crazy they are."

- Mel Brooks.

s.
 
I have found that when things are difficult or trying a little tactful and clever or witty humor at the right moment can work wonders.
Some of the best instance I can think of were just spontaneous and not preplanned or prepared, it was just the way things would turn.
Intent is key to make things do that though.
Some are better at this than others.
 
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