Namaste Thomas,And yet where I offer philosophy and theology as a reasoned and seasoned foundation of belief, you can respond with nothing but sophistry and bile.
A word of wisdom: If you can't think of anything constructive to say — best say nothing.
How does it follow that we are all lost if Pelagius is right? He rejected original sin, but how would that necessarily mean the world is divided into ascetics, mid-ascetics, and losers? I think you referred to the gnostics has having made that mistake, but they were not exactly the model for logic. (I'm not suggesting asceticism is healthy.)If Union with the Divine is the object of true philosophy, it is the property of the ascetic, for what is generally forgotten is that philosophy contained a very important and vital aspect: theurgy — the necessary ascetic disciplines to attain knowledge.
The flight of the alone to the Alone, as the Neoplatonists would have it, was simply beyond the capacity of most of humanity, who do not possess sufficient intellectual rigour and the will to self-discipline to attain such a state of asceticism, are a priori condemned to perdition — so too is the implicit message of the doctrine of Pelagius that Augustine refuted so strongly — for if Pelagius is right, then we are all lost ...
This is why the gnostics split humanity into pneumatics, psychics and hylics — only pneumatics are saved, psychics are saved by attachment to a pneumatic, and hylics, the vast majority of humanity, are irredeemably written off and lost.
There are many different symbolic representations in the communion that you can contemplate regarding Jesus: the cup as representing the heart, the bread being unleavened being a couple of examples that can pull memories of different things Jesus said to mind.Flash to a Unity service years later...a decade even. By then anytime there was communion, I didn't go...I wasn't in that club...it didn't resonate. Even though my church now did this at Midnight Christmas eve, on Easter Sunrise, Good Friday, Maundy Thursday... I didn't participate. Then one service the preacher spoke after communion. And she spoke of the blood of Christ, the wine representing the spiritual/heavenly and the body of Christ the bread representing the material/earthly and together representing His place, our place on the border between the two, spiritual beings having an earthly experience for the benefit of our soul, and the communion representing us joining in community on this path... And there I sat thinking "Wait, I'm part of the club, why didn't the service come before the line??"
And since then I've explored more...and I take communion...I am part of that club, I am on that path. And one thing I've mentioned before that I thought interesting. Jesus dipped the bread and gave it to Judas...go and do what you must...Judas left to do his bidding. Judas got the bread (grocked the physical)...but didn't get the wine (didn't understand the spiritual implications of the Christ)
(I'll apoligize now for all my opinion, sophistry and bile)
It seem to me that remythologizing is an attempt to restore or preserve the supernatural sanctity of something that is in danger of becoming a... what matters most [IMO] is whether we allow the Spirit He possessed to dwell in our own hearts.
Good point. Anyone remember what lengths Confucianism went to (and stooped to) to enforce ritual (in an effort to preserve ritual?)It seem to me that remythologizing is an attempt to restore or preserve the supernatural sanctity of something that is in danger of becoming a
Communion is what the Catholic mass and liturgy is all about. Most of the mass is actually preparation for it. I'm glad we had a chance to explore this and related concepts.