The Present Age Passing Away

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  1. Victor

    Victor Silver Haired Member

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    Brian and all:
    This has been coming for a some time, actually since Brian's old site and 9/11, but more of that later. This is going to be quite lengthy but it is a serious enough WARNING to merit the read! Now on with it!

    Those who may know me from years prior are aware that I was born with the gift of Sight. I have had visions, waking and sleeping, since I was 7 years old. I am now 75. Every single one of them has come to pass, some almost immediately, some in months, some years later, but all of them have become reality! For this post I need only go back 2 1/2 years. That long ago I began to have a dream that repeated at least twice a month. I was driving high up in the hills, beautiful round-top mountains, deep green valleys.... but as the dream reocurred, the valleys began to fill with water. As the dream progressed through the following two years the water filled the road and reached the mountain tops until I dreamed of running through for my life, through houses, basements with water pouring in after me. In October of 2009 the dream stopped aburptly.

    Christmas Eve 2009 I was praying late at night. On my face, I said, "Father, I cannot handle this anymore. You have to intercede, you have to stop all this madness!" I am a Christian believer.... (hey, does that mean I just came out officially?) (That's humor) I went to bed and as I woke the next morning I had a waking vision. A man and a woman were arguing. The man held a scroll in his hand. As he turned his back on the woman he threw the scroll to the ground and said; "I cannot handle this anymore!" At that, the woman turned to me and when I heard her voice I knew it was the Holy Spirit. She said softly, almost apologetically, "There's a terrible storm coming!" Silence until Ash Wednesday 2010.

    We had a prayer vigil that afternoon. I took over at 3 P.M. for an hour. I prayed for a moment and then sat back in the front pew, and then I wasn't there anymore. Wide awake I found myself at eye level looking along the lendth of a snow white table. It was flat and stretched out endlessly. I remember thinking, "I can't be in the church, I must be home." At that moment the young lady who was to take my place was standing mext to me. I said, "What are you doing here?" She replied, "Victor, it's 4 o'clock." That simple waking vision had taken all of an hour!

    Three days later I dreamt of the hills again, the water covered the tops but this time they were frozen solid, they were snow white and stretched out as did the table vision, flat and endless into the distance they stretched. And a voice in my head said, "Isaiah 40, Isaiah 40." It was then that I realized what the 2 1/2 years of visions meant. "A voice cries:..... Every valley shall be lifed up and every mountain and hill be made low: the uneven ground shall become level, and the rough places a plain. And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together, for the mouth of the Lord has spoken!" Isaiah 40:4-5

    I am aware that we are in the Tribulation and things are going to get a lot worse, but when is the vision to be fulfilled? February 1, 2011 I had a dream. I was working with several other people on a huge math problem. Our work seemed to take forever, but in the end the answer we arrived at was 292! Now what does that mean? When I woke I could not remember anything specific except the end of the vision, 292. Then, as with Isaiah, I was drawn toward another scripture, Ezekeil 30:1-9. To bring this epistle to a close, Egypt is the key! It is the mark of an event that is going to change the course of history and our lives, forever. Counting down, as of today, it will ocurr world-wide in 264 days!

    Call me crazy, call me irresponsible, but my visions are coming more frequently as the time draws closer to the week of Thanksgiving 2011. I have one or two a week now covering all kinds of events that are coming true within days or at most a week or two apart. I will conclude with the following.

    Brian probably remembers the old site and the delerious debates we had with Soph, and Bone, and a dozen others. One evening we were in a religious discussion, and as a believer I suggested to the others that we ask God to post on the site... yes, actually post on the site. To be sure of what happened, if anything, we all agreed not to post anything on that string for 30 days. We waited as the days went by and.... nothing. Then 9/11 hit us all; we were grieved, we were angry, we were overwhelmed. A week or so passed and then someone posted on the string, and this is what they said:

    Victor, I do not know if you realized it or not but 9/11 WAS THE 30TH DAY!
    What can I tell you all but that I must believe what I have seen is true. Well, we will know in 264 days, won't we?
    Victor G
     
  2. citizenzen

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    $100 says that on the 265th day life goes on as normal (or as normal as life ever goes on).

    Bet?
     
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    What was the hard math problem?
     
  4. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    E=MC(squared). But the question is, how can mere mortals conceive of such when we can't think past 200 mps?

    Answer: we aren't linear computers...
     
  5. Victor

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    One error I made was in the count. As of today, 258 days and counting. Citizenzen, if I had $100..... religious brainwashing won't allow me to gamble. As far as life going on as usual, NO! I'm not wearing a sign that reads, "The end of the world is here." The end of the age, however, is over. In some way the world society, mankind, will be changed forever. I would not be surprised to see the U.S. government collapse in on itself, too much greed and selfish agendas.... and I do not remember the math problem, only the answer, which is what I asked for. I truly wish I knew what form the event will take.....
     
  6. luecy7

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    So what was the question?
     
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    How is that different from every other day? Each day changes society, mankind and the world a little bit.

    You'll simply point to an event that happens on that day and assign significance to it, even though to any person not aware of your "dawning new age" that event would seem just like any another.

    There is no big clock in the sky that divides one age from another... that assigns importance to "this moment" over "that moment". Human's have been wrong on this matter time after time after time. Why on Earth do you expect it to be any different for your prediction?
     
  8. Victor

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    The question was, "How long do we have?"
    And it will not be a day like any other day. Note that I said it will be world wide and will change our lives forever, and everyone will be aware of what has happened. What 'was' as the event began will no longer exist..... let''s just say as an example, electricity; better, electron flow from negative to positive.... we have no idea what the results of a total shift, 180 degrees, in the Earth's magnetic field would do. I wish I knew what the event will be. All I know right now is that, in one form or another, the Creative Power that formed the Universes will make itself known world-wide!
     
  9. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    A shift in the magnetic poles would be significant. Electricity cannot change direction of it's physical nature's intended path, so that is not an issue, unless we go from matter universe to antimatter universe (then there are a whole lot of other issues to be worried about). Having all planets line up in a row with the sun at one time, might cause some significant gravimetric changes world wide (hell, solar wide)... The earth being shifted from its current orbital position would be significant, as would the earth speeding up or slowing down in rotation. Then again, "aliens" suddenly knocking on our door in full force would definitely be a significant change in our life.
     
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    Cool. That should be easy to tell then.

    Just out of curiosity... what will it mean to you if that day passes and nothing does happen?
     
  11. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    LMAO

    You had to ask the question of the millenia...
     
  12. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    We aren't there...yet

    But your thought on Egypt is promising...
     
  13. Sam Albion

    Sam Albion akaFrancisKing:ViveLeRoi!

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    maybe its a personal prophesy, and you're an old tabbie, (no offence), and you're having an "old tabbie's extistential crisis"?
     
  14. Victor

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    Quahom1
    Nicely done; are you anticipating an alignement of all the planets? "Having all planets line up in a row with the sun at one time, might cause some significant gravimetric changes world wide (hell, solar wide)..." In fact, if you will check a decent Ephemeris you will discover that this is what all the chatter on 12.21.2012 is all about. As close as can be calculated, on that date ALL the planets in our solar system will be in a direct alignment with the center of our galaxy! Knowing something about Astrology (come on, no catcalls) events occur not at the moment of alignment but as they approach the incident between planets. The approach to this event is so slow that a year ahead of that approaching alignment would be insignificant. Several things could occur; a significant change in earth's gravity, its position in relation to the sun, OR a possible alien encounter...... off the syfy, the alignment could create any number of effects on tiny planet earth. Now citizenzen asks an easily answered question. It will mean only that I have misinterpreted these numerous visions and I am indeed "an old tabbie". As happened on the old site, I asked, the Creator of my beliefs answered. God answered on the 30th day, and 9/11 even bears His signature RIGHT BEFORE YOUR VERY EYES! Those with any theological education would be aware of it. Why is it that other Christian believers think we are above His judgment? And that is what all this is about, His judgment! For non-believers, place it on a scientific level, and several of my friends (well educated men and women) have looked at the Old and New Testament with a scientific mind and it all fits in very beautifully. No shame in trips of fantasy, no flames waiting for those who dare to question..... citizenzen, I will go on as always wanting answers, wanting to know the truth and daring to ask! 255 and counting!
     
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    Hmmm... wanting answers? Wanting to know the truth... and daring to ask?

    Did you dare to ask about the source for your contention that "...on that date ALL the planets in our solar system will be in a direct alignment with the center of our galaxy"? According to what I found that isn't even remotely "the truth".

    I used November 17, but if I'm mistaken, please correct me. It would also be a good idea to provide me the time of day, and longitude/latitude of the viewing point, as all those would make a difference when it comes to alignment.

    But anyway, here's the results of my first search. I included links to the web apps so you can look them up for yourself... and maybe find out why I couldn't find the alignment that you claim will occur.

    The Western Washington University Planetarium has a web app that let's you find planetary position by date. I've included screen shots of the results. According to their application the inner planet positions can be found in attachment #1, and the outer planet positions can be found in attachment #2. To help you positioning the inner vs. outer planets please not that both have a yellow sun in the middle of the graphic. Unfortunately the results do not indicate anything close to "alignment".

    And I looked up a second source and found this web app from Fourmilab Switzerland which appears to corroborate the findings from WWU. The screen shot of the result of that can be found in attachment #3. Again... not even remotely close to what I would consider "alignment".
     

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    Victor, you have provided an interesting date. What do you and your group hope will happen on this date?
     
  17. Victor

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    citizenzen
    Did you use December 21, 2012 as your date for the final alignment? The astrological chart I used brought them pretty close. 254 days that I am counting from gets us pretty darn close to Thansgiving week so give us between 254 and 261 from today!! I will recount to correct any error I have made on my calendar. The info you used shows the planets moving toward a 'gathering' point which is basically what I said, when they begin to approach a point that will climax on 12/21/2012 is when an event is most likely to occur. The astronomical reading was from Atlanta, Georgia; midnight 12/21/2012,
    33 45/84 23
     
  18. Victor

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    luecy7:
    There is no group, just me and my visions. I do not know what form it will take but sometime between 254 and 261 days from today a world wide event will take place that will change everything we know, it will change our lives forever! I believe it to be the revealing of the Creative power that formed the Universes. I have been prompted in one vision to read Isaiah 40:3-5. If you read the post I began with you will understand. I truly wish I knew but I have a feeling that it is not going to be pleasant!
     
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    If I follow your days, they are:
    Feb 1, 2011 + 292 days = Nov 20, 2011
    Mar 4, 2011 + 264 days = Nov 23, 2011
    Mar 5, 2011 + 258 days = Nov 18, 2011
    Mar 7, 2011 + 255 days = Nov 17, 2011
    Mar 9, 2011 + 254-261 days = Nov 18, 2011 to Nov 25, 2011.

    If it is the first date, '42' days later is Jan 1, 2012, the first day of the new year... presuming that it still exists. I never read the book that said, DON'T PANIC on it, but I might be tempted now.

    By western accounts, today is, or was, Ash Wednesday.
     
  20. Amergin

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    The magnetic poles of Earth have reversed polarity many times in Earth's history. Scientists have shown that the magnetic field is produced by currents of hot metal, iron and other metals. These circuits rise and fall producing the magnetic fields like a giant electromagnet. The shift is not sudden. The fields and polarity of Earth are gradually weakening and will some day cease as some unknown process occurs in the central core of our planet. During that time there will be no magnetic fields. We will be exposed to the full blast of the Solar Wind Radiation. Life will be destroyed except for deep sea and underground life. Aurora will be seen in Florida, Congo, and Panama. This may have been one of the causes of one or more of the mass extinctions occurring since 3.7 billion years ago.

    Electricity can change direction but not in the magnetic fields. What happens is the direction of particles in the field will decrease and then stop. After a time when the metal currents in our core become active again (as they have before) the direction of the magnetic fields will flow in the opposite direction with the North pole becoming the new South Pole and vice versa.

    The planets lining up in a line is a chance occurrence that surely has occurred many times. The gravitation exerted at such great distances is insignificant. You sound more like an astrologer than an astronomer. There is nothing special about planets lining up since they are many millions of miles apart. Planetary movements and alignments of distant stars have no effect on us. That is just superstition based on primitive pagan beliefs.

    Earth is not going to speed up. In fact, it is slowing down. Four billion years ago, the Earth day was as fast as 4 or 5 hours. Earth is continuing to slow down. The Moon is slowing drifting away from Earth a few cm per year. When it breaks free and drifts elsewhere, the Earth's axis will become wobbly.

    What we can do if the magnetic fields slow to dangerously low levels, we need to dig caves all over the world or build under sea cities for humans to survive the intensive radiation until the magnetic fields return in a reversed direction.

    A greater threat comes from an asteroid that is heading toward Earth and will arrive near Earth in 40 years or so. It could destroy current life on Earth with a direct hit. However, as in past collisions, life always finds a way. We know of millions of species of bacteria living deep in the Earth's crust almost to the hot magma. They exist at incredibly high temperatures. They could mutate and reach the surface to begin the evolution revolution all over again.

    There are many other dangers such as the Sun going nova destroying us. Otherwise, the Sun will burn out its hydrogen fuel. It will start fusing Helium and Lithium into bigger atoms. The heat will make the Sun expand until it becomes so large, it will gobble up Earth in Earth's orbit. A Mega-Gamma Burst that would also eliminate most if not all life on Earth could hit us. Gamma bursts occur often in the Universe. If lucky, the next Gamma burst will not be in the direction of Earth. Alternatively, it could be in the direct path and Earth becomes history.

    Global Warming or a new Ice Age will not likely kill all life on Earth. Life has survived these events in the past, even the global Ice Sheet (Ice Ball Earth) 800-700 million years ago and a similar one 1.2 billion years ago.

    We do not need fear superstitious myths as the cause of our demise. There are plenty of real events that could do us in. No offence, but I believe that Victor's dreams or visions are partial complex seizures arising in the temporal lobe of the brain (also called Temporal Lobe Seizures.) Such seizures are most often associated with a religious or theistic content. The content of religious temporal lobe seizures are always based on the religious or theistic mythology taught to the person through stories (memes). They are imbedded in what Ramachandran calls the God Module of the human brain. God exists in the human brain, not outside the brain as a real entity. The myth stories make the plot of the dreams and hallucinations.

    This is why prophesies ultimately fail. Aberrant neuronal circuits in the human brain make them up. Countless prophets relying on such dreams/hallucinations or simple mischievous fables have predicted the End of the World. When it fails to happen, they resort to new math numbers and delay the end repeatedly.

    Amergin
     

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