is Jésus the Messiah?

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bahous

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i haven't find in reading the gospel that Jesus is Messiah
 
Namaste nand welcome bahous...

Christians find in the gospels that Jesus is our Lord and saviour...non Christians do not.

Which gospel are you reading and what is your native language?
 
wil said:
Namaste nand welcome bahous...

Christians find in the gospels that Jesus is our Lord and saviour...non Christians do not.

Which gospel are you reading and what is your native language?
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Mark 12/35 " And Jesus answering, said, teaching in the temple: How do the scribes say, that Christ is the son of David?"

Jesus has lived 2000 years ago. he has to correct beliefs' of Jews. they beleived that Messiah is david's descendant. but the verse above means Massiah was not descendant of David.
 
wil said:
Namaste nand welcome bahous...

Christians find in the gospels that Jesus is our Lord and saviour...non Christians do not.

Which gospel are you reading and what is your native language?
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my native language arabic and French
 
Jews do not believe in Jesus as Messiah... Or sin of G!d... Christians do...

Muslims, as I understand it, believe him to be a prophet, and are awaiting his return..

In your quote, in that scripture.,.Jesus was teaching...that was a question, not a denial
 
wil said:
Jews do not believe in Jesus as Messiah... Or sin of G!d... Christians do...

Muslims, as I understand it, believe him to be a prophet, and are awaiting his return..

In your quote, in that scripture.,.Jesus was teaching...that was a question, not a denial
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you are wrong

jesus has never recognised him self as Messiah

there is another testimony:

Mark 08/27 : " 27 And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi. And in the way,he asked his disciples, saying to them: Whom do men say that I am? 28 Who answered him, saying: John the Baptist;but some Elias, and others as one of the prophets.
29 Then he saith to them: But whom do you say that I am? Peter answering said to him:Thou art the Christ.30 And he strictly charged them that they should not tell any man of him.

you can reliaze that no one suppose that Jesus is the Messiah. for some is John , another was Elias , and other one is one prophet. this means Jesus had never taught e was the Messiah

and when Saint Peter suppose Jesus as the Messiah he had answered him :and he strictly charged them that they should not tell any man of him.



 
I am the light...the way...no one...I and the father...

Bahous, I take it you are not Christian... again Christians believe Jesus to be their saviour... If you believe this you might be Christian... Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and others do not...that is their (your?) Belief system...

You'll find a better time in here and in life speaking about what you believe and not why others are wrong in their belief.

If one has to out others down to make their religion or belief look better to themselves...they are often questioning their own beliefs...
 
wil said:
You'll find a better time in here and in life speaking about what you believe and not why others are wrong in their belief.
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Agreed. This is good advice.
 
wil said:
I am the light...the way...no one...I and the father...

Bahous, I take it you are not Christian... again Christians believe Jesus to be their saviour... If you believe this you might be Christian... Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and others do not...that is their (your?) Belief system...

You'll find a better time in here and in life speaking about what you believe and not why others are wrong in their belief.

If one has to out others down to make their religion or belief look better to themselves...they are often questioning their own beliefs...
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there is only one truth. the only truth coming from God is Islam

we must fight for it.

by the way i am muslim. and i believe that Jésus came to annouce the Messiah , who could no be another only Muhammed (SAWS)
 
bahous said:
there is only one truth. the only truth coming from God is Islam
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That might be true, but if your only interest here is telling other members that what they believe is wrong few here will be willing to talk to you. We are here to share, not convert.
 
A Cup Of Tea said:
That might be true, but if your only interest here is telling other members that what they believe is wrong few here will be willing to talk to you. We are here to share, not convert.
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yes i agree with you

if there is one to talk to me i am ready
 
yes I agree with you

i am waiting for someone who talk with me
 
Not the place for evangelising, your cover was blown on your first post.

I have not heard another Muslim claim Mohamed to be the Messiah, only the final prophet and that Muslims are waiting for Jesus to return, not Mohamed...

Maybe you can start a thread in Islam discussing your belief of Mohamed being Messiah...

Connecting with other Muslims here... Will help you learn etiquette of discussion at this party...
 
bahous said:
we must fight for it.

by the way i am muslim. and i believe that Jésus came to annouce the Messiah , who could no be another only Muhammed (SAWS)
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Salaam Allahikum brother, can I ask which scholar or sheikh led you to believe this is true? Either of these statements. http://quran.com/4/171
this Aya seems clearly to defy what you state. Jesus (Isa (PBUH)) was without a doubt the Messiah. Mouhammed (PBUH) is never referred to as the Messiah.

Now if you might clarify what you mean by "We must fight for it". Because the way it came across I will be forced to dispute it as well.
 
I am a muslim, i believe Jesus (yeshua, isa) is the messiah, i reject any claim to him being anything more then human though. and in regards to muslims claiming others to be the messiah, maybe they should read the quran instead of listening to scholars and hadith, because clearly jesus is the messiah, clearly stated many times in the quran
 
Timotheus said:
maybe they should read the quran instead of listening to scholars and hadith, because clearly jesus is the messiah, clearly stated many times in the quran
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You keep saying that, but it doesn't really add to anyone's understanding of anything.
 
So the Trinity part is a dispute?

The Quran indicates Mary as the virgin mother, Jesus as Messiah and son of Allah as he commanded her to be pregnant and believe he will return.... I got this all right?
 
Quran indicates Mary as the virgin mother, Jesus as Messiah, Spirit from God, but not genetic/homoousios Son of God/God the Son. His not dying is from Quran, his return is from Hadith, not from Quran.
 
What does the commandiing a virgin to give birth imply? If not some sort crearion/fatherhood? (I don't believe Allah has genes, or jeans or legs).

O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
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