The Gender of G!d

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  1. Bhaktajan II

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    All manifest elements have their own Dharma.

    ie: The Dharma of water is to be wet etc.
    The Dharma of earth is to be earthy etc.
    The Dharma of fire is to be hot etc.

    The Dharma of the sun is to be shine, give light etc.

    Every thing in its place has its own Dharma [duty]

    Each color of the spectrum has its own Dharma [duty].

    Unique Dharma is an Absolute... it can't imitate an other's Dharma.

    All these dharma occur in concert with each other.
     
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  2. Abdullah

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    In Islam God has no gender although He is reffered to as 'He' in Islam, but Islam doesn't need to change this as the 'He' is taken from the Arabic/Quranic language and it has no gender connotations whatsoever in it

    and it is that same genderless definition we use when we translate the Arabic 'He' into English
     
  3. The Artis Magistra

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    Sex is usually determined by sexual features or appendages and genetics in biological organisms and gender is a weirder category based off of that originally which has to do with cultural stereotypes of masculine and feminine associations? Maybe I've understood it wrong.

    I don't think God has genitals, and all genitals belong to God who controls them like tentacles and octopus beaks, and when there were no such flopping and flaying and contracting and vomiting ungulating things God was still present before inventing sexes and genders and our thoughts about them day to day (these are my views). So because God existed before these things, and these are just some of the things God invented in this particular reality or moment, they needn't be considered intrinsic or necessary to God, but rather as anything else God created, necessarily stemming from nothing but unconditioned absurdity generated baselessly.
     
  4. Arif Ghamiq

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    From what I’m getting these days from media outlets, many believe (and claim science proves) that there is no gender - it just something made up.
     
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  5. The Artis Magistra

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    Thank goodness! It comes just at the time when "Trans-Gender" people are becoming more vocal and attended to.

    Almost like what some people think of as God, they say of themselves at times (some, not all, as people who identify as Trans-Gender certainly have a variety of personal philosophies that differ among those who identify as such), that inside this thing you see, this container or vessel, is some certain entity which is what one might consider a male or a female. So of God they may similarly say, this abstract box or vessel (which for many is not deemed truly unseeable and like nothing, not made of information such as visual information or anything like things of any sort) has inside it a male, or a female, or both. Some may even go so far as to say "Man is made in the image of God, and God made male and female, then separated the m female from the male".

    Whatever they say, their thinking is often rather alien to me or even in some way seeming primitive or unsophisticated or premature in its formation and formulation. In other words, sort of really stupid sounding and unclear.

    The way I almost seem to see things is that if we're forced into some form, like the form of a worm, we have to deal with it, like air blown into a balloon or water filling some shaped sack in whatever shape.

    I'm very glad that gender might be a concept being questioned and discarded by people.

    I think the Trans-Gendered people might have to re-evaluate their claims and instead say "We want to be treated no different than the others of such category, we wish to pursue some certain form and stereotypical status model and don't want to be questioned or obstructed from doing so". I think it might end up being more clear than the suggestion that "I have a ghost inside me which differs from how I look". What they say in a sense may be true, an ideal or wish or desire for their form or appearance and how they want to be treated, is not meshing with the external until they really work on it and try to obey that ideal they wish for in the pursuit of being seen a certain way, and so they have to chip and chizzle.

    They say God is a spirit or a ghost too, and many also say, in the image of mankind. Taken in reverse, its also frequently thought that people invest in the notion of God their interests and ideals, the box which they favor and place the things they prize.

    Some people think of themselves as women while they have been born men, and likewise say that God too, like them, is a female ghost afterall. Others felt uncomfortable in their youth playing video games as a female figure, it didn't match up to something they thought they could be or appear as or wanted to appear as, and so they played games where they remotely posessed a male form or one more agreeable to them, and shudder at the thought that God be in any way unlike them, and that they ultimately can not be like God.

    What does that say about someone like me?

    I am disturbed by tattoos because they seem so permanent or long lasting.

    I dislike choices which are final and irreversible.

    Is it any great coincidence then that my God is unbound and imageless, controlling all images?

    I concluded that the best position is that of utter freedom and power, to generate and possess freely and never be trapped by any act or decision, and that Best Position, that Highest Seat, that Treasure I said belongs to whatever at all is truly victorious, and gave it the shorter nickname of "God".

    When they ask, if you could have any super power, what would you have? I tend to go towards transformation and generating experiences or information, the power over experience or illusion reception and the mind or reception of everything. The qualities which give most freedom and power, the qualities of God.

    Sometimes I wonder if tattoos make people feel safe, if categories make people feel stable, and if a God that is like what they love to be or think is best or better is preferable to them, but they seem rather short sighted overall in their magnification of this particular animal.

    In the New Testament book called Romans, Paul says those who think of a God in the visible form of a man are given over or basically cursed to become homosexuals.

    Even though I might have many reasons for why God mustn't be a form or have borders and limitations of that sort or be bound, I also don't very much approve of or admire humanity, and that can also underlie my passionate hatred of any sort of true Man-God (including Women-Gods). That the thing which irritates me most and causes me the most distress in life among the things this world seems to visibly include, humanity, also be what rules over me and my life? What a hideous proposition! Its so bad that I would have to lie to myself even if it were somehow impossibly true seeming. Never, Never, NEVER!!!!!
     
  6. Abdullah

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    Lol that 'gender fluid' thing?

    That's just another perverted thing the satanists are trying to influence in society IMO. It would also turn more people into lgbt; Maybe they want a higher percentage of them in society?
     
  7. wil

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    Sometimes people say more about themselves in their attempts to denigrate others
     
  8. The Artis Magistra

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    There are two different articles or things, one is biological sex, and one is gender. Gender is a much more recent thing than biological sex as a notion. Wikipedia has articles on both. Terrible things were also done in some experiments where a boy had his genitals messed with and was raised as a girl and he and others eventually killed themselves too.

    Everyone should basically be a guy, its rad, especially a white guy, but not too white. Then its a win win across the board. The guys with the big round bootay flopping around (who we used to call women) will get harassed by the buttless in our New Sodom!
     
  9. wil

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    Ya jumped off the tracks there.
     
  10. The Artis Magistra

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    The above links are a crash course for me to to help refresh on the subject and ultimately see how it applies to God as well!
     
  11. The Artis Magistra

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    Wow, in the second video I posted here after the one that discusses gender in language, he comes to the same conclusion as I did with my joke about everyone being Male which he called Ale.

    Now I'm onto the next two videos, and then will relax with the final video and some good old old school.
     
  12. Arif Ghamiq

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    I’m pretty sure there are a great number of non-Satanist promoting this as well - true, liberals are big on it & Satanists are generally liberals, but I don’t think it’s simply a satanic movement.

    I still see men & women from a biological point of view, but there are obviously crossovers when it comes to masculinity & femininity - I do however believe that gender applies to creation & not Creator.
     
  13. The Artis Magistra

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    In LaVeyan Satanism, there was a strong promotion of very distinct masculinity and femininity and gender roles originally. I even read Satanic literature from the foundational period which emphasized these things directly and that men be "manly" and embrace that, and women take advantage of really going to the max with their sexual qualities and features which interest men.

    In the Qur'anic use of the idea of what could be called Satanism, Satan is accused of being an agent working towards distortion of the nature of things, mentioned in relation to the polytheistic superstitions and cultures acts such as the slitting of the ears of cattle or other sorts of mutilations or deliberate distortions.

    This idea was taken further and to the extreme in some cases with added taboos and the idea of "fitra" and the natural state, though adoption of some Jewish or Afro-Semitic trends sort of counter the ideas, with circumcision (mutilation of the God-given foreskin), as well as ideas about shaving the mustache but leaving the beard, and shaving the pubic hairs, none of which are mentioned as suggested practices in the Qur'an but are now emphasized by some groups like Salafi Muslims and various extremists focused on reccomendations from later Islamic tradition.

    The gender issue seems more pronounced in the New Testament and in the direct Judeo-Christian tradition than in the Qur'an, where biological differences are implied or suggested as the reason for men given more responsibility over women and their care, whereas the New Testament seems to almost suggest that the mistake of Eve and Incarnation of God's Word / Command into a man be reasoned as the justification for men's authority and command over women. The Qur'an seemed to be much more pleasant towards women in direct comparison, but with interaction with other older cultures, the revolutionary steps in the Qur'an may have in some ways regressed to mesh with the conquered cultures and surrounding cultures such as the Byzantine and the Persian as well as the Jewish cultures and other Late Antiquity remnants.
     
  14. Abdullah

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    Hi wil

    It wasn't to denigrate anyone, it was my honest opinion. Sometimes I'm not too good at mincing my words
     
  15. Abdullah

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    Yes ofcourse there are a lot of non Satanist initiated things, however this one seems to be a bit too peculiar for it not to be.

    Homosexuality was practiced amongst the knights Templars and so they promoted it via their positions of influences, so the story goes... and it seems to me that the same group may be behind this one.
     
  16. wil

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    Ah, referring to people as satanists and perverts is a compliment...my bad.
     
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    Fat fingers typo, perverts, my statement stands
     
  18. Abdullah

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    Lol no not the person I was replying to, but those hiding behind the shadows and pulling the strings of this whole gender fluid malarkey , those are the Satanists!
     
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