Sister Sinead

Discussion in 'Islam' started by Arif Ghamiq, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. Arif Ghamiq

    Arif Ghamiq Active Member

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    Sinead O'Connor announced she has embraced Islam, releasing this statement:

    "This is to announce that I am proud to have become a Muslim. This is the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian’s journey. All scripture study leads to Islam. Which makes all other scriptures redundant. I will be given (another) new name. It will be Shuhada'"

    Shuhada is the plural form of shaheed meaning "witness" and is often translated as "martyr"

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...OConnor-announces-conversion-Islam-video.html
     
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  2. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    This could be the quote of any convert to any religion...
     
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    Agreed. I have heard it from others
     
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  4. Cino

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    Good for her! She never seemed happy with the Church, or they with her.

    For entirely selfish reasons, I hope she doesn't reach the same conclusions regarding music performance as Cat Stevens / Yusuf Islam did.
     
  5. Arif Ghamiq

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    I still like Yusuf Islam's musical performances :

     
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    Yes, he started performing again. Changed his mind after a long time...
     
  7. OrtaYol

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    Yeah but they would be wrong :p
     
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    wil UNeyeR1

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    This quote is the typical response from any religion...
     
  9. OrtaYol

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    LOL, touche! Doesn't really affect it's accuracy though.
     
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    wil UNeyeR1

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    They could all be wrong
     
  11. OrtaYol

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    Yes, very possible. One or more of them could be right too.
     
  12. HakimPtsid

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    It doesn't matter what religion it is, I think it's obvious her mind is a bit gone. I feel both sad and happy for her. If she's converted to orthodox Sunnism, she'll probably get sick of it quick though, lol.
     
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    Insha-Allah, Ash-Shafee (The Healer) she will be blessed with finding a cure for whatever psychological issues she has. I would not be surprised if she becomes a Sufi.
     
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    I hope so, my Allah bless her anyway.

    Still, I wonder what people like her actually read and study before deciding to convert/revert, because for me it required pushing through many levels of disinfo and really trying to familiarize myself with the essence of each school of thought - finding the Sunni school to be....umm....a mental mouse trap. This also included going between different ahadith collections and trying to work out what the actual spiritual legacy for each school was. For a westerner, it's no easy task either. Choosing Imam Ali over Abu Bakr makes far more sense to me.

    Anyway, if she's genuine at least, then that's a good start.
     
  15. OrtaYol

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    ^ Why choose either?
     
  16. HakimPtsid

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    Philosophy and intelligence versus mindless fundimentalism. Why choose?
     
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    Speaking a month later, she seems to have aspects of Orientalism in her world view, can't say I take a liking to that. But do what thou wilt, I don't care, she's a grown woman. Whatever.
     
  18. OrtaYol

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    So if you did not belong to a particular sect of Islam, you would be a mindless fundamentalist?
     
  19. HakimPtsid

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    No, (and) it's a good place to start (gives you a place to rationally think things out and weigh things in context) but if you're going to pick a 'sect', the philosophical one that promotes intelligence is obviously the far better one spiritually, mentally and emotionally. (this is aside from the issues with Sunni obfuscations and rampant literalism)
     
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    That's what I was trying to ask initially, why choose a sect at all? Not why did you choose Shia over Sunni. :)

    Personally I think most if not all of the problems of Islam come from extra-Kuranic sources.
     

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