This Is Not What I Am, excerpt from the Yamaka Sutta

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  1. Beautiful

    Beautiful Active Member

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    You can not avoid that people will try to hurt you and that they will wrong you. But keep your soul at peace and you always win. Do not blame the victim, my friend, its very unwise and heartless.
     
  2. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    Right. Who is the victim here?
     
  3. Mrs Malaprop

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    More BS. Just answer the qeustion.
     
  4. Thomas

    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    The only scene I halfway liked in Me Gibson's The Passion of Christ was the one where He stumbles while carrying the cross to Golgotha and His mum rushes forward to console Him. He says "See? I make all things new." Not for the schlock, for the irony ...
     
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  5. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    removed ...
     
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    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    But I saw it! :D And agreed!
     
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    wil UNeyeR1

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    Sure y'all secret handshakes.

    Keepn me in the dark and ignorant.

    Just joshin, I honor RJ and his decisions to change his mind. I can't speak for him but often writing is enough to release what is needed. It no longer needs to be out there, and in retrospect will cause more damage to his intended purpose...

    This is what I've interpreted sometimes in the past and absolutely honor and respect that level if evaluation, thought and action.

    I wish I had that ability... And I am not talking about my io handcuff if not being able to edit...but my internal (infernal) inability to that level of retrospect.
     
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  8. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    I said I did not like Mel Gibson using the passion of Christ as a gap to make a big Hollywood torture movie.

    Then I withdrew it because I felt I was not entitled to comment in a movie I have not watched?

    Now you know everything, lol
     
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  9. Thomas

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    Well I've seen it, and you're right ...
     
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  10. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    I heard it was very violent, Thomas.
     
  11. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    Whattya think? Is this the best way to achieve the results you desire?
    Don't get me wrong, I make similar mistakes all the time.

    When I switched from managing multi million dollar construction projects to working with volunteers on much smaller ventures, it was a huge learning curve. When everyone relied on my endorsing a weekly paycheck or agreeing to a monthly requisition, the fact that I was paying their mortgage, or signing over tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars gave my words/orders clout.

    In the cooperative world we have to encourage others to do our bidding, have to make them want to help us create a forum, a discussion the way we would like to see it go.

    Like I said, I make mistakes all the time and me watching curt responses fall on deaf ears is very instructional to me!

    I gotta thank you for that and take advantage to improve my ways!
     
  12. Truthseeker9

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    I don't see that as religious instruction. It is an exploration of truth together.
    I don't think beautiful is instructing. I don't see how anybody would it that way.
     
  13. Cino

    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic)

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    In that case I had the impression that it was not quite genuine.

    If I invited you to explore together, but I already had an idea of what I'd like you to discover, then you'd be entitled to being suspicious of some ulterior motive on my side, too.

    I don't know if @Beautiful had such plans, but the religious scene is notorious for this kind of manipulative talk. So I spoke up. There are better ways of exploring together, in full openness rather than the murky border zone of deniable proselytizing strategies.
     
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    Its hostile people, who knows what they are going through...what are you gonna do. But I am glad some have common sense :) pleasure to meet you.
     
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    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic)

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    The Bodhisattva of Trolling! :)
     
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  17. Truthseeker9

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    I don't think you should be so suspicious in this context, given the whole context of this person.

    I don't know if I would say that, but I believe in consultation, which means each person expressing their own opinion, and not being attached to one's own opinion, and listening to the other person with an open mind, though that is hard to do.
     
  18. Cino

    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic)

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    Drawing a parallel to our earlier discussions, were you in consultation mode then? You certainly did not come across to me as willing to let go of your opinion to acknowledge having heard my points.

    Which is fine, this is an interfaith forum, we're here to learn about each other, not to convince each other or reach consensus, so maybe the approach you and @Beautiful take is just not the best suited one.
     
  19. Truthseeker9

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    You're right. I did have trouble letting go my opinion then. I'm just setting forth an ideal.
     
  20. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    Linus needs his blanket, lol?
     

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