Different strokes..

Discussion in 'Belief and Spirituality' started by wil, Jul 11, 2021.

  1. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    I am often agog here, amazed at the breadth and depth of understanding. Those with actual knowledge and expertise on various topics.

    I often can only read, not come close to absorb your discussions and conversations. Some I have to resort to skimming and perusing as there is so much so fast my brain is like a clogged sink of ideas and incant get any of it to sink in.

    I am much more like a shallow pond where each idea, each thought creates ripples which take me into obtuse contemplations which encircle ever larger and more minute till they are to big for me to understand fully and become all but imperceptible to the senses and beyond my abilities to annunciate even as I feel the waves returning off of alternate thoughts.

    While this in no way validates my way of doing things...it did cause me to post.

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...pies-were-right-its-all-about-vibrations-man/
     
  2. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Wil, I have been here long enough to know that you are a natural teacher, so I don't take your above post at face value. Rather I look at it as a rather hard lesson.

    I know that you are a lover of the Tao, as I am. This short quote from the Tao pretty much sums up the scenario from your post: "Those who know do not talk. Those who talk do not know".

    In my opinion your simple methodology is flawless (I aspire to it myself) and the author of the piece you linked to cannot hold a candle to you. I was cued in immediately, having heard that wheedling tone before: "I know something, therefore recognize me." No, there is no need for you to hunt for anything else other than what you already have.

    What does the Tao mean by "do not talk"? Well I think it implies actionless action, meaning something higher does the talking for you, but also through you. That's the "easy" button of the Tao and the practitioner need only keep hitting it. Don't be distracted by the conscious babbling of experts.
     
  4. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    As in: an empty vessel makes the most noise?
     
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    SalixIncendium अहं ब्रह्मास्मि

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    This is reminiscent of the Plato quote: "Wise men speak because they have something to say, fools speak because they have to say something."
     
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    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    I represent that remark....

    It is sort of like 10,000 monkeys at 10k typewriters..eventually they will write something...

    I often babble incoherently but someone finds something in it.

    I only speak to find out what I am thinking.
     
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    ... yeah ... though the internet still hasn't produced a new Shakespeare play yet ...
     
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    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    I have been absorbing plays, movies, TV my entire life. As far as I can see the only thing keeping shakespeare alive is the theater teachers...
     
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    Hi. I think RJM was closer to the original (but working from a faulty memory here), however... I think you have grasped the underlying implications. Lovely.
     
  11. Thomas

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    And the movies based on Shakespeare plays.

    He's credited with 1,700 words that appear in the English language – many will be words in use that his are the first recorded mentions, but he introduced a significant number of words.

    Then the number of quotes are endless – "Band of Brothers" is from Henry IV, so is Stormzy's "Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown".
     
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    Not quite sure how to take this. I'm sure the sentiment has been around since humans learned to grunt, lol?
     
  13. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    Yeah...i know... I just place him among Neanderthals... We may not be here (physically or theatrically) without any step in our evolution (of species or language)... And while if we skip a step in the staircase it we may have issues...

    I just rate him as a step...did he accelerate something? Maybe...so I can blame global warming on him for moving us forward.to fast?

    Maybe good, maybe bad...
     
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    Shakespeare? All good. Brilliant. Greatest ever ... imo :)
     
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    I think it's a mistake to assume 'steps' as a general rule.

    Yes, he's influenced later playwrights ... but has he been surpassed?

    In terms of the issues tackled, he's still a relevant voice, and often what he said has never been bettered. His characters have become immortal stereotypes: Romeo & Juliet, Hamlet, the Macbeths, etc., etc.
     
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    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    Again, I am an uneducated snob. Lol... I don't read foreign languages so unless it is translated.into modern English that prose ain't for me.

    I don't find him more compelling than Hemingway or Twain. If I were to create a library of 100 books to read I havnt read none of them would be his. Crass American I am.
     
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    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    Further thought he to me is like Budweiser ...a top selling beer to satisfy the masses but not for anyone who actually likes good beer.

    Prolific yes (as am I here, but that does not qualify me as the deepest thinker...just keep babbling)

    He was to me a viral sensation of his time. Sir to like Mick Jagged and Bob Dylan...neither are fantastic singers...but they rode the wave when they found it. And like Budweiser and the bard there are millions of ardent vocal biased followers who have drank the koolaid.

    I am fully aware.tastes.differ...but when something appeals to the masses...to the majority....it does not add credibility in my book.
     
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    Before he passed away, I worked with a gentleman who was a practitioner (about the level of a deacon, for reference) of the Yoruba faith, and his big thing was all about "vibrations." His funeral gathering was a unique experience, one I am glad to have had the privilege of.

    Yoruba religion - Wikipedia
     
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