Current suppression of Baha'is in Iran

Thomas

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86. Should anyone intentionally destroy a house by fire, him also shall ye burn; should anyone deliberately take another’s life, him also shall ye put to death.

I did not know this. It's contrary to the Words and Message of Christ. So much for Baha'i universalism.
 

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Says the government.
What did they do?
So ignore the persecution of innocent people elsewhere?
How do you know that Baha'i convictions are persecutions?
Did you read an Iranian Bahá'ís post which explained how the Iranians have reduced persecutions stopped executions for 25 yrs now?
 

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How do you know that Baha'i convictions are persecutions?
Common goose sense, from following these threads -- also the evidence of a Baha'i living in Iran, posting here, at risk of actual danger.
Did you read an Iranian Bahá'ís post which explained how the Iranians have reduced persecutions stopped executions for 25 yrs now?
Well, it's hard nowadays to get international funding etc, while executing innocent people for holding different religious beliefs? Easier to convict them on spurious charges, and deny them higher education and knock down their houses and generally make life bad for them?

But you can believe what you want to. I've said I'm out of this thread, so prefer not to respond to more questions ...

Sorry: absolutely no offence intended to anyone
 
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We're dealing with one right at this time!
We're going to put up with some serious difficulties in order to support the violated people.

This doesn't answer the question. Do you give the shooter a slap on the wrist after a verbal warning that says don't do this again, and then send them on their way with a teddy bear? How does @badger envision justice for a mass shooter?
 
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A mass shooter that kills elementary students deserves either life imprisonment or the death penalty. I will wait for you to offer a better solution.
 

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Common goose sense, from following these threads -- also the evidence of a Baha'i living in Iran, posting here, at risk of actual danger.
I don't think that any posters here are in Iran at this time.
Unless they want to say they are there.

Sorry: absolutely no offence intended to anyone
OK
 

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This doesn't answer the question. Do you give the shooter a slap on the wrist after a verbal warning that says don't do this again, and then send them on their way with a teddy bear? How does @badger envision justice for a mass shooter?
Play with your analogies some more.... do.
 

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A mass shooter that kills elementary students deserves either life imprisonment or the death penalty. I will wait for you to offer a better solution.
Where was this?
 

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86. Should anyone intentionally destroy a house by fire, him also shall ye burn; should anyone deliberately take another’s life, him also shall ye put to death.

I did not know this. It's contrary to the Words and Message of Christ. So much for Baha'i universalism.

Nah. It's just common sense, Thomas. If a shooter rushes into a school and starts popping off shots and murdering innocent individuals, we would be unjust to turn the other cheek. Any just person would seek to take that individual out before they do any more harm to others.
 

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What have these crimes got to do with this thread?

You brought it up.

Don't tell me what Sen thinks, better to actually quote exactly what he writes, eh?

Please tell me, does Baha'i have criminal laws and punishments written down by Bahauallah including the death penalty?

Death penalty and life imprisonment make complete sense to me. There are some crazy people out there.
 

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You brought it up.

Death penalty and life imprisonment make complete sense to me. There are some crazy people out there.
And how, if Baha'i will never
govern any country, will Baha'i have to right and power and authority to imprison people, or burn them to death? !!!!!

Time to wake up?
 

Tony Bristow-Stagg

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Time to wake up, yes indeed it is!

A great way to finish this OP.

May all stay safe and be happy, Regards Tony
 
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