Let's Question the Western Left Hand Path!

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Not at all, it's a matter of perception, we are all a part of 'this' reality, each having their own reality creating a collective reality. The LHP is indeed a lonely path, it is not for everyone.

Now I’m thinking that maybe I was getting some of your personal views mixed up with the Western LHP. Maybe a person doesn’t have to believe everything you do about reality and what happens after death, and the line you’re drawing in your mind between LHP and RHP, to be in daily contact with their Daemon in an antinomian process of externalizing their GodSelf.
 

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Now I’m thinking that maybe I was getting some of your personal views mixed up with the Western LHP. Maybe a person doesn’t have to believe everything you do about reality and what happens after death, and the line you’re drawing in your mind between LHP and RHP, to be in daily contact with their Daemon in an antinomian process of externalizing their GodSelf.
Correct. You don't even have to be on the LHP (eastern or western) to realize your Greater Self, we realize this Self throughout our lifetime, what we do with these epiphanies is what places you on the WLHP or not.
 

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Not everyone on the LHP practices magic, in fact, most do not. As for demons, they only have a negative attachment under the Abrahamic veil. On the LHP, Demons are Spiritual Creatures that are simply aspects of our unconscious mind.

You are right, of course.

I chose the example of Ceremonial Magic to respond to @Longfellow's question whether the practices were the same between (W)LHP and RHP.

OTOH, I seem to remember that you put Crowley et. al. firmly on the RHP, so that is food for thought.
 

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You are right, of course.

I chose the example of Ceremonial Magic to respond to @Longfellow's question whether the practices were the same between (W)LHP and RHP.

OTOH, I seem to remember that you put Crowley et. al. firmly on the RHP, so that is food for thought.
Definitely, Crowley used LHP practices to reach a certain point in practice, and then ultimately, in the end, he condemned the LHP and encourages the Thelemite to absolve themself into the Absolute/Supreme Being, etc.
 

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Correct. You don't even have to be on the LHP (eastern or western) to realize your Greater Self, we realize this Self throughout our lifetime, what we do with these epiphanies is what places you on the WLHP or not.

I had some concerns about people boxing themself in and alienating themselves from others with the labels LHP and RHP, but that's nothing special with those labels. That's just what people do.
 

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I had some concerns about people boxing themself in and alienating themselves from others with the labels LHP and RHP, but that's nothing special with those labels. That's just what people do.
RHP/LHP are spiritual philosophies, not boxes. You are either on one Path or the other or you are atheistic.
 

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Just as we cannot experience someone else's consciousness, we don't seem to be able to experience someone else's Greater Self either. It's an individual subjective experience. However, we can relate that experience to one another and compare it.

The Western Left Hand Path has many organizations and many adherents. Some of us work together in these organizations.

I'm interested in ways that people on that path learn and work together. Do you ever have conversations with other people on that path, giving them encouragement and new ideas and getting encouragement and new ideas from them? What kinds of work do people on that path do together?
 

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I'm interested in ways that people on that path learn and work together. Do you ever have conversations with other people on that path, giving them encouragement and new ideas and getting encouragement and new ideas from them? What kinds of work do people on that path do together?
I am one of the instructors of the Sect of the Horned God and run their Order of Iblis, I've been a member of the Temple of Set and Ordo Luciferi, and ran my own organization for 8 years.

The LHP is quite diversified so there is a lot going on in different groups. Some have rituals and ceremonies, simple get-togethers, retreats, celebrations, etc. We all work together just like any organization would work together.
 

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I am one of the instructors of the Sect of the Horned God and run their Order of Iblis, I've been a member of the Temple of Set and Ordo Luciferi, and ran my own organization for 8 years.

The LHP is quite diversified so there is a lot going on in different groups. Some have rituals and ceremonies, simple get-togethers, retreats, celebrations, etc. We all work together just like any organization would work together.

Do you like talking to other instructors sometimes, about the path and guiding people in it? If it isn’t revealing too much, what would be some issues that you might discuss?
 

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Do you like talking to other instructors sometimes, about the path and guiding people in it? If it isn’t revealing too much, what would be some issues that you might discuss?
Not sure what you're asking, we all talk in the Order, about many things.
 
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