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No need to repeat yourself, we understand your viewpoint.
No wil, be fair. I don't see this as repetition, spirituality and poetry are different (I think?).
I am interested in @Aupmanyav 's ideas of a godless spirituality. The Buddhist part of me relates to it. My agnostic part is always seeking new ideas.
 

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I agree with the man, I would like to see comments which increase interfaith discussion and not shut it down. This atheist leaning agnostic (don't believe but don't know) has similar well known viewpoints. But appreciate hearing others
I am interested in @Aupmanyav 's ideas of a godless spirituality.
I also agree with that, as I posted I am trying to dissuade from one sentence answers indicating disbelief in G!d and would like to see more of what he does believe
 
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No wil, be fair. I don't see this as repetition, spirituality and poetry are different (I think?).
I am interested in @Aupmanyav 's ideas of a godless spirituality. The Buddhist part of me relates to it. My agnostic part is always seeking new ideas.
Aupmanyav also is half-Buddhist, half Hindu, and considers Buddha as one of his gurus.. Buddha was not agnostic. He just did not want to discuss things which do not benefit men in any way. Hindus too generally are not agnostic. Most say yes, a few say no.

Senior members know my views. I subscribe to non-duality, and do not make 'what exists' into a God.
 

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Around the age of eighteen, my hardcore materialism got its first major dent. A friend showed me a magazine article about Pre-Raphaelite paintings. There was a moment of emotion that was both unique and very at odds with my worldview. I experienced something similar when many years later I discovered the work of Frederic Edwin Church.

Now in old age, I have been making a final attempt to get to grips with poetry. I am beginning to find it there now. Not in the same way, seeing a special painting is a little like an explosion. Poetry is more gentle, something to be savored.

I once read an article about some aspect of quantum physics. The author wrote that what he was trying to describe could only really be understood through the language of mathematics. I sometimes wonder if the same is not true of spirituality and the language of the arts.

Any thoughts?
Hello Leveller, having just finished some very demanding but extremely uplifting material from one of my most favourite internet
contributors, I began searching for someone or somewhere to share it.

For want of a better title, It is about Natural Religion.
As I have absolutely nobody I know to do this with, I searched this Forum, to find a relevant? area to try.

Your post was the closest I could find, so here goes:

The Newsletter is "The Marginalia" by Maria Popova, whom I have subscribed to and respected for some years.

Please don't think I am trying to be "Intellectual", as this is hard work for me, and I need it, as I cannot get 'satisfaction' any other way.

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I have also attached PDF copy of the full article.

Please respond regarding appropriateness.

Cheers, from another in "old Age"


A Responsibility to Wonder: Pioneering Neuroscientist Charles Scott Sherrington on the Spirituality of Nature​

“We have, because human, an inalienable prerogative of responsibility which we cannot devolve…not… even upon the stars. We can share it only with each other.”​

By Maria Popova​

A Responsibility to Wonder: Pioneering Neuroscientist Charles Scott Sherrington on the Spirituality of Nature

To be fully awake to life is a matter of ceaselessly digging for that “submerged sunrise of wonder” — a matter of living, in the astronomer-poet Rebecca Elson’s immortal words, with “a responsibility to awe.” Out of that responsibility arises a kind of quietly rapturous spirituality — a way of moving through the world wonder-smitten by reality.

The great English neurophysiologist Charles Scott Sherrington(November 27, 1857–March 4, 1952), laureate of the 1932 Nobel Prize for his groundbreaking discoveries of the function of neurons, termed this orientation “Natural Religion” and explored its rewards in his 1937 Gifford Lectures, later published as Man on His Nature (public library | public domain) — a book composed in the epoch when every woman was a “man,” yet replete with dazzling universal wisdom on our human experience of being material creatures moving through a cold cosmos as living hearths of consciousness.
 

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Regarding Poetry:
I have not studied, but another of my valued Writers and almost a Spiritual Teacher is Ravi Ravindra,
who uses quotes from insightful Poets such as T.S. Eliot to illustrate certain points.

Also, in the very last paragraph of the PDF I attaches by Maria Popover, she uses a very beautiful description.

"then revisit Rachel Carson, writing the year Sherrington returned his borrowed stardust to the universe"

How's that for writing?
 

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Which means what? Atheist or Believer?

Please do not use divisive phrases like this. I did not join the forum to serve an apprenticeship. I would expect the same responses regardless of my membership time.
He never expanded on it. Just asked his audience to keep away from contemplation which did not help in making people's life better.
I am sorry. At times my language is a bit blunt. But I have no ill-will against believers. My family and my community are totally theistic. I am just an aberration. :)
 
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