Identity, individuality

[Aupmanyav]

But, in the end, both yours and mine are faith statements.

They are not. My belief is based on the finding of science that at the time of 'inflation', the universe contained plasma at high pressure and temperature. Of course, the view is flexible. It can change according to what science finds.
You have a fixed belief. God clicking his fingers for no reason and us, as your book describes it.

 

[Aupmanyav]

He said:
"People hanker after individuality, thinking that it will escape death. That is why we fear death.."

Aupmanyav sticks to what he said. It is not only at the 75 years of age that we start thinking about death. (I am 83+)
We think about it even when we are young. Of pleasure and displeasure of God. Of riches in heaven and torture in God's heaven if we go against what our book or prophet says.

 

[Thomas]

You have a fixed belief. God clicking his fingers for no reason and us, as your book describes it.

Actually the book does not supply a reason why, so that's wrong, too.

 

[muhammad_isa]

My belief is based on the finding of science..

..so you put your trust in mankind .. that they have "all the answers".
They do not .. science can be used for bad as well as good purpose.

Civilisation is underpinned by law .. is it scientists who have "discovered" that ..
or is it based on something else?
I know where the law derives in Christian/Islamic nations..

..and I believe that Indian law has its roots in those too.

Of course, the view is flexible. It can change according to what science finds..

..anybody would think that science was your religion.

I don't know why you would think that scientists can tell you much about creating
a civilisation (or a universe, for that matter) .. they certainly know about how to destroy one!

 

[Aupmanyav]

..so you put your trust in mankind .. that they have "all the answers".
They do not .. science can be used for bad as well as good purpose.

Civilisation is underpinned by law .. is it scientists who have "discovered" that ..
or is it based on something else?
I know where the law derives in Christian/Islamic nations..

..and I believe that Indian law has its roots in those too.

..anybody would think that science was your religion.

I don't know why you would think that scientists can tell you much about creating
a civilisation (or a universe, for that matter) .. they certainly know about how to destroy one!

Science does not have all answers, but that is no reason to plump for superstition. Continue research.
Yes, I correct my beliefs according to findings of Science. Sure, same as with religions.

Laws of civilizations are either from society or from the governments. There is no evidence that God dictated any law.
Indian law is based on the Indian Constitution which was finalized by Constituent Assembly after going through constitutions of many countries, and which we adopted on January 26th, 1950. The British law was the base for criminal law, however, it has been amended many times according to the needs of the society. What is most difficult to change is the Fundamental Principles of Indian Constitution.
The day is celebrated as 'Republic Day'. Indian constitution.

"The original Preamble included only “sovereign” and “democratic”; it was amended in 1976 to include “socialist” and “secular.” It lists the Constitution’s objectives of assuring citizens justice, liberty, equality, and fraternity - the last three having been inspired by ideals that originated during the French Revolution."

Constitution of India | Samvidhan Divas, Preamble, Articles, History, Ambedkar, Fundamental Rights, & Facts | Britannica

The Constitution of India is the supreme law that defines the structure of the government of India; the functions of the legislative, administrative, and judicial branches; and the rights of citizens. It went into effect on January 26, 1950—an event celebrated annually in India as Republic Day...

www.britannica.com

Yeah, science has been used for destruction, just as religions are used for conflicts.
How else would we know if not by science? Is it by reading 7th Century utterances by some one in Arabia?

 

[muhammad_isa]

Laws of civilizations are either from society or from the governments..

Right .. it depends on the society, what we get.

There is no evidence that God dictated any law..

The Christian/Islamic civilisations (societies) don't agree.

Indian law is based on the Indian Constitution which was finalized by Constituent Assembly after going through constitutions of many countries, and which we adopted on January 26th, 1950. The British law was the base for criminal law..

Probably true, given the history..

..however, it has been amended many times according to the needs of the society..

Same applies to any country.

Yeah, science has been used for destruction, just as religions are used for conflicts.

"Yeah, science has been used for destruction, just as beliefs are used for conflicts."

You single out religion, but it is not really the culprit at all.
Most wars are political in nature, and about power and wealth.

Christianity/Islam does not promote war .. it promotes defence.
The problem being, that mankind often interpret aggression (wrongly) as being a "defence".
Demonising others, whether they be Communists, Capitalists, Muslims .. you name it !