Bandit said:
i see how you are drawing that together & it does make sense to me. i have been seeing some kind of paradigm shift on the earth, where Christianity ceases to exist & is taken over by a bunch of jerks because they do not want to hear about the bridegroom.
the very thought of not hearing the voice of the bridegroom on the earth NO MORE AT ALL is most terrifying to me, more than anything i can really think of. this leads me to think that we are at the marriage supper or somewhere else for awhile, while the earth continues in darkness & bitterness as the salt of the earth has been removed. i say this because before it, it is talking about the earth & the inhabitants of merchants & the blood of saints & nations being deceived etc...
right??
Jesus is that light that shines, but will not shine any more...the thing is Jesus shines through his people, so this leads me to believe the people are gone from the earth & getting married finally.
i am still not sure what i am seeing but your post on the builidng is making sense to me as well because there is something else about the bride/ or bridegroom chambers & you are correct that it is in the building where you hear them speak to each other.
there is so much on my mind lately about all this i dont even know where to start...but go ahead of me.
i agree it is revealed to true worshippers.
Bandit said:
i see how you are drawing that together & it does make sense to me. i have been seeing some kind of paradigm shift on the earth, where Christianity ceases to exist & is taken over by a bunch of jerks because they do not want to hear about the bridegroom.
the very thought of not hearing the voice of the bridegroom on the earth NO MORE AT ALL is most terrifying to me, more than anything i can really think of. this leads me to think that we are at the marriage supper or somewhere else for awhile, while the earth continues in darkness & bitterness as the salt of the earth has been removed. i say this because before it, it is talking about the earth & the inhabitants of merchants & the blood of saints & nations being deceived etc...
right??
Jesus is that light that shines, but will not shine any more...the thing is Jesus shines through his people, so this leads me to believe the people are gone from the earth & getting married finally.
i am still not sure what i am seeing but your post on the builidng is making sense to me as well because there is something else about the bride/ or bridegroom chambers & you are correct that it is in the building where you hear them speak to each other.
there is so much on my mind lately about all this i dont even know where to start...but go ahead of me.
i agree it is revealed to true worshippers.
Hey Dear Brother Glen (Bandit):
Chapter 18 in Revelation is the climax of the Bible in my opinion. I bought the Bible on CD's and had to play Revelation over and over until the message finally sunk it. Then I started to try and make appropriate changes in my life. The mind has to be open to take in the words and it can be easilty blocked out if the mind is not ready for it. It is about God's soviergnty and right to rule. We chose (Adam and Eve) that man was going to make his own decisions and rule ourselves and God allowed us to make our decisions because time moves forward for us and it stays still for Him as he is the Alpha and the Omega with no beginning and no end and therefore no time.
I read Job Chapter 38 the other day and his power is so almighty it sent chills up my spine.
Revelation 18 (the fall of false religion) is not about the fall on one religion. It the fall of the mass of false religion. It can mean a lot of different things to different people, but I tried going through it over and over and any religion focused on the contents of what is being discussed falls under the discussion. The would include fornicators, murderers, praise to idols and man since God is the supreme ruler. I will not identify one religion because I don't believe there is one religion that will fall. I now look forward to Armagedon when Jesus wins his war over Satan. The time is coming soon because there is only one prochecy in Daniel that has not been fulfilled which is who is the next King of the North. We don't know, but it's pretty scarey when the systems falls what will happen. Thats why the true worship to God as the Supreme Ruler is so important now and why we need to repent from idols, false teachings, praise to men (Saints, Religious Leaders), Doctrines and pray to God through Jesus without the use of Graven Images.
Mark 7:7-8 "It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, because they teach as doctrines commands of men. Letting go the commandment of God, you hold fast the tradition of men"
When Rev 18 happens our money and possessions have no value. The only treasure we have hope in is building a true Worship to God through Jesus.
Here is the whole Chapter 18 of Revelation that one really needs to conteplate on and discern for themselves. I find it amaing that Revelation is the least read chapter in the Bible and contains the most information through the symbolism that John tells us in the first Chapter. He was 95 when he penned it and therefore it is not about the fall of Jerusalem around 600 BCE.
Revelation 18:1-24
1 After these things I saw another angel descending from heaven, with great authority; and the earth was lighted up from his glory.
2 And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation and a lurking place of every unclean and hated bird!
3 For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.”
4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues.
5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind.
6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her.
7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’
8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong.
9 “And the kings of the earth who committed fornication with her and lived in shameless luxury will weep and beat themselves in grief over her, when they look at the smoke from the burning of her,
10 while they stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and say, ‘Too bad, too bad, you great city, Babylon you strong city, because in one hour your judgment has arrived!’
11 “Also, the traveling merchants of the earth are weeping and mourning over her, because there is no one to buy their full stock anymore,
12 a full stock of gold and silver and precious stone and pearls and fine linen and purple and silk and scarlet; and everything in scented wood and every sort of ivory object and every sort of object out of most precious wood and of copper and of iron and of marble;
13 also cinnamon and Indian spice and incense and perfumed oil and frankincense and wine and olive oil and fine flour and wheat and cattle and sheep, and horses and coaches and slaves and human souls.
14 Yes, the fine fruit that your soul desired has departed from you, and all the dainty things and the gorgeous things have perished from you, and never again will people find them.
15 “The traveling merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of [their] fear of her torment and will weep and mourn,
16 saying, ‘Too bad, too bad—the great city, clothed with fine linen and purple and scarlet, and richly adorned with gold ornament and precious stone and pearl,
17 because in one hour such great riches have been devastated!’
“And every ship captain and every man that voyages anywhere, and sailors and all those who make a living by the sea, stood at a distance
18 and cried out as they looked at the smoke from the burning of her and said, ‘What city is like the great city?’
19 And they threw dust upon their heads and cried out, weeping and mourning, and said, ‘Too bad, too bad—the great city, in which all those having boats at sea became rich by reason of her costliness, because in one hour she has been devastated!’
20 “Be glad over her, O heaven, also YOU holy ones and YOU apostles and YOU prophets, because God has judicially exacted punishment for YOU from her!”
21 And a strong angel lifted up a stone like a great millstone and hurled it into the sea, saying: “Thus with a swift pitch will Babylon the great city be hurled down, and she will never be found again.
22 And the sound of singers who accompany themselves on the harp and of musicians and of flutists and of trumpeters will never be heard in you again, and no craftsman of any trade will ever be found in you again, and no sound of a millstone will ever be heard in you again,
23 and no light of a lamp will ever shine in you again, and no voice of a bridegroom and of a bride will ever be heard in you again; because your traveling merchants were the top-ranking men of the earth, for by your spiritistic practice all the nations were misled.
24 Yes, in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy ones and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”
Take care, tommy
