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Here’s to you, Cage!
I like Ecclesiastes because it is short and straight to the point for the common person. Next to James, and perhaps Hebrews, it is my personal favorite book of the Bible. Now, I had thought to do somewhat of a commentary on the whole book, on the order of what Dauer, Bandit and Poh have done with the Parsha Project, but I can see that would take a great deal of time to do it proper justice. Unfortunately, time is a very precious commodity in my life right now.
So, I am going to have to narrow this done considerably. As time allows, and interest is shown, perhaps we can expand to include the whole book.
I have drawn from Brian’s compilation at the following address for ease of composition, but I noticed that this version does not take into account the grammatical “fixes” that make it easier to read in English. With that in mind, I hope to place in parentheses [ (x) ] what is found in the KJV in italics. This is important to me, because the original collection of authors assembled to compose the KJV used italics to note where they inserted words to make the words flow better in English. The words found in italics in the KJV are not found in the original Hebrew. Modern grammatical convention uses italics for emphasis, and this is a sticking point for interpretation among various denominations, who at times place emphasis on words that are not in the original text. That is why I will use parentheses, which should convey better with modern grammar.
Having said all of this, I will now begin:
http://www.comparative-religion.com...g-james-version/old-testament/ecclesiaste.php
It is hard to discuss Ecclesiastes without taking this wonderful sample into consideration. There is a time and purpose for everything, even if we do not understand it at the time. Yes, I feel it is right, well and good to try to understand. But try as we might, some things in life are beyond our understanding. I understand that my mind is not sufficient to know the totality of G-d’s mind. As smart as I may think I am, and may even well be, I am no match for the Creator of the universe. So I trust that those things I don’t understand are as they should be. I trust that when the time is right, what I am capable of knowing will be revealed to me. I trust that some things I will never know, no matter how hard I apply myself. I can live with this understanding.
To rejoice, and do good in our life, and to enjoy the good of our labor, is G-d’s gift to us. Our gift to G-d in return is to do these things. See how this parallels Jesus’ command to love G-d and our neighbor? See how this parallels James’ “faith without works is dead?”
Since we were so recently on the subject of sacrifice, I thought it well to note this. This seems to support the comments by Luna and others about the intent and motivation behind the sacrifice. Whether taking the life of a creature, or fasting, or whatever form of sacrifice offered (I might even add charity), if it is done by rote with little mind to what it signifies, it is unacceptable. Only when these things are done in the proper spirit and frame of mind do they become “a pleasing fragrance” to our Heavenly Father.
After the preacher gets done telling us of so much that transpires in the world, he advises us simply to “Fear God, and keep his commandments.” Did not Jesus tell us exactly the same thing over a thousand years later? Love G-d with all of your heart, mind, soul and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself. Indeed, there is a famous Rabbi whose name escapes me just now, who said something to the effect of: “Love G-d, and love your neighbor. All the rest is commentary.”
As always, constructive and polite comments are welcome.![Smile :) :)](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
Here’s to you, Cage!
I like Ecclesiastes because it is short and straight to the point for the common person. Next to James, and perhaps Hebrews, it is my personal favorite book of the Bible. Now, I had thought to do somewhat of a commentary on the whole book, on the order of what Dauer, Bandit and Poh have done with the Parsha Project, but I can see that would take a great deal of time to do it proper justice. Unfortunately, time is a very precious commodity in my life right now.
So, I am going to have to narrow this done considerably. As time allows, and interest is shown, perhaps we can expand to include the whole book.
I have drawn from Brian’s compilation at the following address for ease of composition, but I noticed that this version does not take into account the grammatical “fixes” that make it easier to read in English. With that in mind, I hope to place in parentheses [ (x) ] what is found in the KJV in italics. This is important to me, because the original collection of authors assembled to compose the KJV used italics to note where they inserted words to make the words flow better in English. The words found in italics in the KJV are not found in the original Hebrew. Modern grammatical convention uses italics for emphasis, and this is a sticking point for interpretation among various denominations, who at times place emphasis on words that are not in the original text. That is why I will use parentheses, which should convey better with modern grammar.
Having said all of this, I will now begin:
http://www.comparative-religion.com...g-james-version/old-testament/ecclesiaste.php
Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every (thing there is) a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
Ecclesiastes 3:2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up (that which is) planted;
Ecclesiastes 3:3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
Ecclesiastes 3:4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
Ecclesiastes 3:5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
Ecclesiastes 3:6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
Ecclesiastes 3:7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
Ecclesiastes 3:8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
It is hard to discuss Ecclesiastes without taking this wonderful sample into consideration. There is a time and purpose for everything, even if we do not understand it at the time. Yes, I feel it is right, well and good to try to understand. But try as we might, some things in life are beyond our understanding. I understand that my mind is not sufficient to know the totality of G-d’s mind. As smart as I may think I am, and may even well be, I am no match for the Creator of the universe. So I trust that those things I don’t understand are as they should be. I trust that when the time is right, what I am capable of knowing will be revealed to me. I trust that some things I will never know, no matter how hard I apply myself. I can live with this understanding.
Ecclesiastes 3:12 I know that (there is) no good in them, but for (a man) to rejoice, and to do good in his life.
Ecclesiastes 3:13 And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it (is) the gift of God.
Ecclesiastes 3:22 Wherefore I perceive that (there is) nothing better, than that a man should rejoice in his own works; for that (is) his portion: for who shall bring him to see what shall be after him?
To rejoice, and do good in our life, and to enjoy the good of our labor, is G-d’s gift to us. Our gift to G-d in return is to do these things. See how this parallels Jesus’ command to love G-d and our neighbor? See how this parallels James’ “faith without works is dead?”
Ecclesiastes 5:1 Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of God, and be more ready to hear, than to give the sacrifice of fools: for they consider not that they do evil.
Ecclesiastes 5:2 Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few.
Since we were so recently on the subject of sacrifice, I thought it well to note this. This seems to support the comments by Luna and others about the intent and motivation behind the sacrifice. Whether taking the life of a creature, or fasting, or whatever form of sacrifice offered (I might even add charity), if it is done by rote with little mind to what it signifies, it is unacceptable. Only when these things are done in the proper spirit and frame of mind do they become “a pleasing fragrance” to our Heavenly Father.
I include this for the benefit of those who rail at “the machine.” Yes, it happens. We must do what we can to prevent it from happening. Sometimes that is not enough. How few successfully stood against Hitler during the time of his power. How few successfully stood against Pharoah before the Exodus. Yet, we can in our own little ways, within the sphere of our influence, do what we can to counteract these “evils” that will come.Ecclesiastes 5:8 If thou seest the oppression of the poor, and violent perverting of judgment and justice in a province, marvel not at the matter: for (he that is) higher than the highest regardeth; and (there be) higher than they.
I love these verses, they speak so deeply to me. Grandpa taught me to live my life in such a manner that I can sleep at night. It took me a long time to figure it out, but some things aren’t worth losing sleep over. The more wealth we have, the bigger target we are, and the more we worry about who will take our wealth from us. Even so, wealth in the proper context is a blessing from G-d, and it is right that we enjoy the fruit of our labor.Ecclesiastes 5:12 The sleep of a labouring man (is) sweet, whether he eat little or much: but the abundance of the rich will not suffer him to sleep.
Ecclesiastes 5:18 Behold (that) which I have seen: (it is) good and comely (for one) to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God giveth him: for it (is) his portion.
Ecclesiastes 5:19 Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this (is) the gift of God.
I see here a foreshadow of Jesus’ anointing before trial and execution. I also see a parallel with a Native American tradition; “it is a good day to die.”Ecclesiastes 7:1 A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth.
I find these verses to be among the most profound in this book. G-d knows we will not at all times be 100% as He desires us to be. It is on us, to do our best in accord with what we understand, to be the best we can possibly be, for G-d’s sake and for our own.Ecclesiastes 7:15 All (things) have I seen in the days of my vanity: there is a just (man) that perisheth in his righteousness, and there is a wicked (man) that prolongeth (his life) in his wickedness.
Ecclesiastes 7:16 Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself ?
Ecclesiastes 7:17 Be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish: why shouldest thou die before thy time?
Ecclesiastes 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
Does this make sense in light of my comments about foolish men being taken advantage of by less-than-scrupulous women?Ecclesiastes 7:26 And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart (is) snares and nets, (and) her hands (as) bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her.
I would like to draw attention briefly to verse 12. Scholarship is a blessing, but it is also a curse. Knowledge is a heavy burden. Wisdom is far better than knowledge, for without wisdom knowledge is wasted effort. I have known people in my life who were not “book smart,” who were yet wise. And I have known PhD’s who made a living driving a cab. Given the choice, I would rather be wise than smart.Ecclesiastes 12:11 The words of the wise (are) as goads, and as nails fastened (by) the masters of assemblies, (which) are given from one shepherd.
Ecclesiastes 12:12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books (there is) no end; and much study (is) a weariness of the flesh.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this (is) the whole (duty) of man. (emphasis mine)
Ecclesiastes 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether (it be) good, or whether (it be) evil.
After the preacher gets done telling us of so much that transpires in the world, he advises us simply to “Fear God, and keep his commandments.” Did not Jesus tell us exactly the same thing over a thousand years later? Love G-d with all of your heart, mind, soul and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself. Indeed, there is a famous Rabbi whose name escapes me just now, who said something to the effect of: “Love G-d, and love your neighbor. All the rest is commentary.”
As always, constructive and polite comments are welcome.