Re: Babylon the great
kenod said:
Babylon is also the woman of Rev 17 - she is described as a whore. When I say that I believe it is the RC church, I will be accused of being anti-Catholic, but that is not correct - I know that there are many, many genuine Christians in the Catholic church.
This woman is also called the “mother of harlots” - I believe this refers to the Protestant churches. If this is correct, what is it about churches that God is condemning? Well, first of all, we all recognize that denominational boundaries are an obstacle to true interfaith fellowship and co-operation.
The organised, political church also impedes God’s plan. For the past 2000 years God’s plan has been dynamically unfolding. The Reformation, the Wesleyan holiness movement, and the Pentecostal movement, were not meant to foster more denominations but to bring God’s children in an ever closer and deeper relationship with Him. We were not meant to organise and write out creeds because that only hinders the work of the Holy Spirit in revealing God to His people.
The terms “whore” and “harlots” refer to the restraints of organised religion, and do not comment on the personal faith of believers. All believers, no matter what their label, make up the one true church … and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
Well, not quite. Everyone pretty much has it down to Rome. And everyone pretty much has it to a religious system in Rome. Now here are some things to consider:
Besides the Catholic Church having it's nation/city (The Vatican) located in Rome, it is not Rome.
The Saints were martyred prior to the establishment of the RC church with the heyday being circa 66 AD, and Nero being the author of that blood let.
The city of Rome is known for another religion that spans the entire world...Liberalism. Now this "religion" is not passive, it is so strong it is wrecking havoc even in the United States. It is not a "let it be" religion, as it is as we live and breathe, attempting to remove anything Christian from the world mind. It wants parents to lose their rights to raising their children as they see fit, it wants marriage convoluted, it wants the laws that God gave to man erased. It wants talk of the Christian God shut down on the radio waves, on the internet, and even in the houses of families.
No other religion is being attacked by this force (yet), because Christianity really puts a kink in its "do as we please, and as we say" style. Most faiths tend to adapt some of the Liberalism religion, except for core Christianity.
And the Liberalism religion is growing faster than any other religion on earth...
Those that run this religion are not stupid, they let other religions do the work for them, but once they feel satisfied that all obstacles are out of the way...all religions will be destroyed.
The amazing thing is that Americans and Europeans who call themselves "Liberal" are no where near following the true meaning of this religion. In fact they are "conservative" compared to this religious philosophy.
See, this Liberalism Religion, is anything but liberal. It does not allow freedom of anykind. No freedom of speech or expression, no freedom of belief, no freedom of prayer, no freedom of morales, no freedom of familial authority, no freedom of research and discention...one may do only what the Liberalism Religion's laws say one may do.
The incidiousness of this religion and its leaders is how subtle it works its influence into mainstream society. I wouldn't work if it was dropped on people all at once. So like the "frog in the pot of water about to boil", it introduces the heat little by little, until the "frog" is dead, without ever knowing why it died.
So Kenod, I think you got the right city, but the wrong religious establisment...
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