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[FONT="]one: And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
[/FONT]other: No, I do not think Jesus was a god. He never claims to be God, and admits that he doesn't know many things, only God does. I am not sure any god-creator need be conscious or have thought. I think God is purely natural, a natural creative force of the universe.
one: do we have to call on jesus, worship him as god, "know in our hearts that he is truth"
other: No, I think that calling on Jesus is futile because the great man died according to the gospels. I think we need to call on Jesus as a teacher, moral mentor, and life example. We might do the same with Siddartha Gautama, Ghandi, Lugh, Cathba, and Zarathustra.
one: in order to be saved?
other: That would be unjust if one got saved only by pledging allegience rather than living a moral life.
one: are condemned if we do not do this?
other: The Bible is not consistent or clear on this. Most world Christians do not think this way. And more Muslims think we must praise the One God, Allah and venerate his greatest prophet, Muhammad (PBUH). American Christian Fundamentalism is a large minority in America but a small minority world-wide. America is 25% Roman Catholic and most place stronger emphasis on good works (moral life) than mindless dogmatism.
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[FONT="]one: And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
[/FONT]other: No, I do not think Jesus was a god. He never claims to be God, and admits that he doesn't know many things, only God does. I am not sure any god-creator need be conscious or have thought. I think God is purely natural, a natural creative force of the universe.
one: do we have to call on jesus, worship him as god, "know in our hearts that he is truth"
other: No, I think that calling on Jesus is futile because the great man died according to the gospels. I think we need to call on Jesus as a teacher, moral mentor, and life example. We might do the same with Siddartha Gautama, Ghandi, Lugh, Cathba, and Zarathustra.
one: in order to be saved?
other: That would be unjust if one got saved only by pledging allegience rather than living a moral life.
one: are condemned if we do not do this?
other: The Bible is not consistent or clear on this. Most world Christians do not think this way. And more Muslims think we must praise the One God, Allah and venerate his greatest prophet, Muhammad (PBUH). American Christian Fundamentalism is a large minority in America but a small minority world-wide. America is 25% Roman Catholic and most place stronger emphasis on good works (moral life) than mindless dogmatism.