World Peace & Removal of Terrorism

Discussion in 'Modern Religions' started by dattaswami1, Aug 25, 2007.

  1. dattaswami1

    dattaswami1 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2007
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    0
    World Peace & Removal of Terrorism


    There are two root causes for the entire chaos and terrorism in this world. One is the thirst for earning money and the other is the religious fanatic. Due to money, people are quarreling, hereas due to religion, countries are quarreling. Unless these two root causes are eradicated we cannot achieve world peace. The tree will not die by cutting leaves and branches. It dies only by cutting its roots. There is no use in earning the extra money. Due to excess money, quarrels, mental worries and several other problems arise. Finally, it ends in loss only and not in any profit. You have to leave all this extra money here only and quit this world alone. Your issues may lose that money given by you. Such sinful extra money brings problems not only to you but also to your children. Neither yourself nor your children will be happy and peaceful. This entire world is the property of God and take whatever is required from it. This is said in Gita, (“Yavanartha….”).

    In these days, buffet system is followed during feasts. In this system, large vessels contain various food items and people take food from these vessels according to their requirement. Similarly, God created this entire world and you can take the wealth from it according to your requirement. People are not following the same system when they are taking wealth from this world. The peculiarity is that most rich people follow this buffet system in the feasts but do not follow the same when it comes to earning the money. ‘Esavasya Upanishad’ says that one should return back this extra money to the Lord. Otherwise, the Lord will give the troubles.

    In buffet system, if one takes extra food in his plate by over ambition and ignorance for a moment, he returns back immediately before starting eating. Veda says that you must return back the extra money for the God’s work if taken by ignorance. In the buffet system if you eat the extra food, you will suffer from diseases. Similarly, if you enjoy the extra money, God will punish you in several ways.

    In this world, people belonging to any religion think that their religion only is the true religion. They think that the God of their religion can alone give the salvation and the worship of that God should be according to their religion only. They also condemn other religions and invite people to convert people into their religion. They do lot of work to establish their religion only in the entire world which shows their ambition. It is just like Alexander’s ambition to make the entire world his kingdom. Alexander wanted to extend his kingdom. But, even he returned back after fighting with Porus (Purushotama) on seeing the loss of life in the battle. But, the ambition of religious fanatics is not subsided on seeing any amount of loss of life. Religion is considered to be backed with spiritual knowledge and the religious people are expected to be free from ambition. We can excuse ambition of any ignorant person like Alexander.

    The heart of a religious fanatic will not change by any amount of kindness or love expressed in the appeals. Such appeals can change only the heart and the change in the heart is always temporary. Change in the intelligence brought by knowledge based on logic is always real and permanent. Intelligence (Buddhi) is considered to be the driver of this body, which is like a chariot running by the senses, which are like the horses. If the driver is convinced, the entire chariot along with the horses is in the correct path. The terrorist will not change by love or kindness shown to him. He becomes the terrorist due to the wrong knowledge that enters his brain. He was convinced by that knowledge. That knowledge can be changed only by the right knowledge. A diamond can only be cut by another diamond. Similarly, one type of knowledge can only be replaced by another type of knowledge. Then only, he will be convinced and changed forever.

    So far, the trials made to change the terrorist were beating around the bush and therefore, they did not have much effect. Today, SRI GURU DATTA is giving the right knowledge to remove the religious conservatism.
     
  2. mee

    mee Interfaith Forums

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2005
    Messages:
    6,363
    Likes Received:
    0
    World Peace & Removal of Terrorism


    this is the way

    look to this kingdom and you will see the wonders of God Daniel 2;44 :) its the only way to peace on the earth

    And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; Daniel 2;44

    Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth matthew 6;10


    the heavenly kingdom is all set up and it is now well established, soon it will go into action , and Jehovah God and Jesus christ will sort things out good and proper.
     
  3. Netti-Netti

    Netti-Netti New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2008
    Messages:
    2,571
    Likes Received:
    0
    "root causes for the entire chaos and terrorism in this world...."
    Greetings Dattaswami1. Thanks for reposting the Manohar Roy article. I noticed the concluding statement was yours, not the author's. ;)

    The search for simple explanations is ongoing. I believe religious fanaticism is but one way to package the will to power in this day and age. Other packagings and repackagings include nationalism and imperialism.

    Btw, indepth interviews with so-called "religious fanatics" sometimes show that they were driven by sociopathy and personal issues rather than a commitment to religious truth.

    Greed has always been with us. It goes hand in hand with the will to power. I expect it will take increasingly dramatic forms (e.g. wars) as the planet increasingly faces scarcity of resources.

    I think the fundamental problem is old: the choice between sin and holiness. History has shown that when sin informs the plan of action, it often has pervasive consequences - maybe to call our attention to how wrong it is. On the other hand, nobody pays much attention to courtesy, kindness, honesty, and simple living.
     
  4. seattlegal

    seattlegal Why do cows say mu?

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2005
    Messages:
    6,590
    Likes Received:
    62
    "Against such there is no law."~Galatians 5:22-23 :)
     
  5. Dean_Fox

    Dean_Fox New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2009
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't think religion need be removed rather religious fanaticism needs to be addressed. What causes people to become religious zealots? What makes someone a right wing religious extremist or an Islamic suicide bomber?
     
  6. Mike Maybury

    Mike Maybury New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2009
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Can you tell me a genuine difference between War and Terrorism?
    It appears to me to be a matter of viewpoint.
    If you are part of a country/coalition that believes you are 'right' you may use, as is happening in Afganistan, rockets and bombs and troops in war. In the process you not only blast lots of holes in the rocks and earth, but kill many soldiers (the enemy). At the same time you kill, by mistake usually, groups of civilians celebrating weddings etc. and innocent families in their homes, as well as some innocent people in vehicles, which look suspicious or who cannot understand your language.
    If you are a terrorist, you may be either trying to protect your country from foreign invaders, or, through extreme religious and political ideas, be trying to rid the world of the infidel, who does not believe the same religion. You may, in a mistaken belief that there is some future life, decide to strap a bomb around your waist, or get a gun and attack 'the enemy' or innocent men women and children. You will wish to die in the mistaken belief that you will enjoy a fictitious future life of pleasure. No way!
    Eventually the two enemies will need to sit down together and discuss their differences and try to live in peace. This process will not be easy, as is shown in Northern Ireland, and it will be a long time before people will live normal lives again. In essence the people, from childhood onwards, need to be educated, without peculiar religious ideas. They, like all humans, need to understand that all humans are respnsible for their actions. The only way to live in peace is to respect all our neighbours, even if those neighbours live thousands of miles away.
    If we have plenty of wealth, as in the western world and parts of the middle east, we have an obligation to share our wealth and expertise to ensure that everyone in the world has access to clean water, knowledge of cleanliness and education free from any religious bias.
    Organisations like the United Nations need to be set up and expanded, to ensure more fairness throughout the world.
    Religions need to get together , as in the World Parliament of Religions of the 19th. Century, with secular thinkers in order to find points of agreement, in order to see how they can undertake social work and education that governments perhaps cannor pursue.
    National governments need to give up some of their sovreignty, even within their countries borders, so that human rights can be upheld throughout the world. No people should be imprisoned or killed for just holding ideas, as long as they do not harm others.
    Television, radio, computers and modern technologies should be used to spread freedom throughout the world. Governments need to allow their citizens free access to all means of communicating with other citizens in their country and in all other countries. No government should act to prevent this free access, except to prevent criminals from preying on people.
    The Universal Declaration of Human Rights from the United Nations is useful guide, and it should become an obligation for every government to ensure that it is observed within their borders.
     
  7. Dean_Fox

    Dean_Fox New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2009
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Mike, I guess it's like the old adage, one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. Let's not forget "the west" initially sponsored "Al Qaeda" and the Taliban when we they were fighting the Russians.
     
  8. GlorytoGod

    GlorytoGod There is a River

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2008
    Messages:
    943
    Likes Received:
    0
    I agree sort of, fanaticism takes many different forms not just religious, take soviet communism or Hitlers National Socialist party for example.
     
  9. Dean_Fox

    Dean_Fox New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2009
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    I agree it is fanaticism that tends to be the problem regardless of what it forms around.
     
  10. Ben Masada

    Ben Masada New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2011
    Messages:
    999
    Likes Received:
    1

    The real problem is not the excess of money, or religions, or any thing material, but man himself. What needs to be changed is not what comes from outside of man, but what comes from inside. Therefore the change must be esoterical. Man is the thing that must change himself. The only formula, if we are really serious, is to apply the Golden Rule in our lives, of not doing unto others what we would not like they did to ourselves. However, this rule does not brings food to our tables. Therefore, only the New World Order will bring some solution by cleasing and reducing the world population to about two billion people. The world is too crowd, and, IMO, that's what is causing all the problems.
    Ben
     
  11. Dream

    Dream New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2008
    Messages:
    3,677
    Likes Received:
    1
    Maybe. This same sentiment was presented in another thread, that there were too many people. I just listened to Aldous Huxley's "The Politics of Ecology" which suggests that the modern high birthrates and low death rates in countries of under-developed infrastructure will prevent those countries from improving the quality of life of citizens. It poses also problems for democratic institutions as well. In his opinion wars arise when countries have to ask questions that lead them to war, so overpopulation could be one of the causes.

    It is not clear what the best max population would be. Adam Smith (I read this somewhere) thought that 600 million people was the most the earth could support, but he could not have predicted the improvements in technology that have allowed more than 10 times that number so far. In 1892 in the Ohio Educational Monthly (vol 41, page 31) a statistician named Mr. Ravenstein predicted that the world would reach a maximum sustainable population of 6 billion by the year 2072. Currently we're sitting at 7 billion and its only 2011.
     
  12. IowaGuy

    IowaGuy Hunter-Gatherer

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2011
    Messages:
    660
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ben - you and I are of the same mind on this topic. But I wonder, where do you get your 2 billion figure? What is the justification for that particular number? We are currently at 7 billion; that is a lot of human carnage and suffering to get down to 2 billion. I'm more of the theory that we need to figure out how to cap the population at 7 billion through family planning, legislation, etc. That way no need to kill off anyone, as your theory seems to imply.
     
  13. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2011
    Messages:
    3,212
    Likes Received:
    2
    Does this mean "the answer is what do you think G!d thinks of terrorism"? If the L!rd was an anthropomorphic, omniscient, omnipotent one, this would be but proof of H!s injustice.

    This sentence does nto really make any sense to me.

    "Evil" is something we struggle to overcome... a lack of light, a darkness that can overcome a person. We do not have to be in an existence that integrates with it, however we do have to live in a material world with plenty of it present.

    If Infinty is the Beyond (or some kind of plane of existence of Divity or Divinity itels, not clear on its use) there is no interest in "evil" there.

    See, this would justify the terrorist who shot Ghandiji. I for one cannot even comprehend this line of reasoning.

    Pax et amore omnia vincunt!
     
  14. radarmark

    radarmark Quaker-in-the-Making

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2011
    Messages:
    3,212
    Likes Received:
    2
    You are not using the word "terrorism" in the context of this thread. "There is a purpose to what is called terrorism which is to separate life from what it can not continue to understand (over understanding useless information at activitiy that is being extinguished for aware life in an area) and to facilitate aware reformations of existences to other environments where they can go around understanding their interests completely." is what you said.

    Did you mean it? Your response is a straw man. I do not consider (nor given the context of this thread should you) earthquakes or cerebral hemorrhages terrorism.


    Panta Rhei! (Everything Flows!)
     
  15. bob x

    bob x New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2003
    Messages:
    2,618
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think "allelyah" is just a computer program stringing together snatches of phrases to create the appearance of posts.
     
  16. Ben Masada

    Ben Masada New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2011
    Messages:
    999
    Likes Received:
    1

    This thing is getting really serious. Since it would be highly unethical to reduce the population from up down the scale in age, the only solution, IMO, is to cut down the birth rate to perhaps a child per couple.
    Ben
     
  17. Ben Masada

    Ben Masada New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2011
    Messages:
    999
    Likes Received:
    1

    That's exactly what I mean: To curb down the population through a severe family planning to, for instance, a child per couple, no more. Of course, I could never mean to ressort to killing any of the living by no method whatsoever. Too unethical for humans, IMO. I believe that with such family planning, in a period of ten years or so, in addiction to natural death of the aged ones, we could be down about a billion.
    Ben
     
  18. mzaib

    mzaib Interfaith Forums

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2012
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    1
    The world is not going to be a good place for living . It has not a single day when a murder or a crime is not happening . While we are laughing in one corner of the world then there may be a person being killed in another corner . Its a normal situation . But we don't want violence or war . So we want removal of terrorism .
     
  19. bhaktajan

    bhaktajan Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    1,594
    Likes Received:
    10
    It is not Knives that kill people,
    It is people that slit, stab, chop, carve, baste and stuff beyond the pale of their medical coverage's rate plans.

    Remember, Zombies play Lottery ever time an advert blinks.

    here's an oldie:
    I dare any one to look in to a mirror in a dark place and repeatedly say:

    I am not a Zombie.
    I am not a Zombie.
    I am not a Zombie.
    Oh God please tell me I am not a Zombie.

    and then see what happens.

    If nothing happens . . . BEWARE!

    *******************************

    Okay okay seriously,

    Mzaib,

    Do you really really want to know the ancient way of establishing world peace?

    Do you already know what I will openly reveal?

    It's not a hidden secret nor mystical remedy.

    I have posted about this in the past.

    There is NO other way to get peace in the world then the data that I am well aware of.

    Do you know what I would offer as the cure?
     
  20. bhaktajan

    bhaktajan Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    1,594
    Likes Received:
    10
    [QUOTE]Mzaib [from another thread, 'What is religion']: Religion is a way to lead our life . Religion means to believe in some matters . And to think about those matters in a respectful way . But the way is to make life peaceful and it seems to us the right way to lead our life . This believe is able to make you honest , to avoid crimes and to avoid all bad things . [/QUOTE]


    Mzaib,

    Okay okay seriously,

    please dis-regard my earlier dark-humor.

    Do you really really want to know the ancient way of establishing world peace?

    Do you already know what I will openly reveal?

    It's not a hidden secret nor mystical remedy.

    I have posted about this in the past.

    There is NO other way to get peace in the world then the data that I am well aware of.

    Do you know what I would offer as the cure?
     

Share This Page