Do places have power?

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  1. InLove

    InLove at peace

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    Peace to everyone here--

    Ever since I saw this thread, I have been thinking about it. I kept wanting to just say, "Absolutely, there are energies associated with places." But I did not exactly know how to elaborate. Your thoughtful posts have pretty much covered the rest of what I wanted to share. Thank you.

    Yes, I agree--whether by empathy or signatures, I know I have felt the power of places. And what may be positive or negative energy for me may very well be the opposite for someone else. But I am amazed at how some places--mountains, oceans, forests (certain natural places), and also places where art and architecture are so inspiring, seem to evoke varying degrees of awe from almost everyone.

    Here is a thought, also--my own experience has been that there are some places where I felt such dark, foreboding energy that it made me shudder and leave quickly, only to find later that it was a good thing I left. Nothing was apparent to the eye--only to my spirit. As a matter of fact, one place where this happened was actually quite pleasing to look at, and was heralded as a great institution of humanity and faith, but I just had to get away.

    One last comment--I just have to tell you this because it makes me so happy to say it. There is nothing incredible about my back yard and garden that would land me in a magazine or anything. But the love and positive energy I have devoted to it over time, and the way it has given these things back is something I can hardly explain. And not one person that has visited here in the past few years has ever left without commenting on it. They always say the same thing: There is just something special about this place.:)

    Thanks for letting me go on a bit...Great thread.

    InPeace,
    InLove
     
  2. InLove

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    Well, it has been a while since any posts on this one, but it is something I think about quite often.

    Do places have power? Ever been to a pawn shop?

    InPeace,
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  3. InLove

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    Guess not.:)

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  4. path_of_one

    path_of_one Embracing the Mystery

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    Heh. I always thought pawn shops and antique stores must be horrid places to go if you're one of those- is it clairvoyant?- people. You know, the ones who get senses of people's info. from their stuff. Eek- seems it'd be like standing in a crowd, everyone mumbling. I imagine it causes one to be frazzled, like I get in large crowds of people.
     
  5. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    Even when I was an active detective, I would make it a point NOT to go into a pawn shop. That isn't power, it's energy uncontrolled. Ever meet a pawn broker with a cheerful disposition?...neither did I.

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  6. brucegdc

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    If you think about it, the amount of negative energy in a pawn shop is likely to be tremendous. People don't pawn unless they need money, in general. The level of desperation must be high. (Exceptions exist, like pawning wedding rings from one's ex.. but that's probably a rare bit of relief, offset by the circumstances).

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  7. InLove

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    Hello, Merry Meet, Namaste, and Peace to All Everywhere

    Thanks, everyone --my concern is wisdom. Thanks for participating. I am about to go away for a bit. Please, if it seems right, carry on with the conversation here or elsewhere.

    Yes, it is that way, but only when you have to be there. When you don't have to be there, you hear the rest--and it isn't all bad. I have been there in both situations. Either way, it does make an impression. And, path_of_one--I do know. I hate being alone in a crowd. Alas, it happens often. And we have to "roll with it", sometimes, don't we?


    Law enforcement, Q? (I was waiting to talk with you about the sea. Now I cannot even bring up parrot-heads --an "institution" we may possibly discuss later--I only dreamed--you actually sailed).

    Anyway, back to the issue--actually, I have met pawn brokers with all kinds of attitudes--lol--why wouldn't one be friendly--oh--I will stop now, before I get into trouble. Anyone who really has to deal with all this on a regular basis will know what I am trying to say, and most of them are probably not here.

    Yes, the desperation level is high. Most of the stories behind other people's belongings (the ones you find in pawn shops and other places) are depressing. But, thankfully, not all. There are giving people in this world. And some of their stuff winds up in pawn shops with the spirit attached.

    I thank you all for your posts--I am pretty tired. (Can one be pretty and tired at the same time?) I will ask my friends, or maybe I will just ask myself? Anyway, I don't have to ask tonight--all I need to do is be grateful for friends and all.

    I think I am about to go away from here for a little bit. Need some time. Carry on.....

    InPeace,
    InLove
     
  8. InLove

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    Hi, Everyone--

    LOL--been re-reading some my posts from yesterday. Sorry-guess some of that one did not make much sense--see why I gotta get out for a while? Needing to rest and clear my head. (And I'll stay away from pawn shops:) ) Anyway--love y'all--and love talking with you. When I get back, hopefully I will do better on my end!

    InPeace,
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  9. path_of_one

    path_of_one Embracing the Mystery

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    You're doing fine on your end- InLove. Peace to you and I look forward to your return.

    Others- and pawn shops- I didn't even think about the negative energy problem. I've never been in a pawn shop, to tell the truth. I just know that antique stores sometimes seem full of energy, but I'm not clairvoyant or whatever so I don't tend to get stories, but sometimes certain objects give me feelings. Ah, well-- wierd.

    I do have to say that I noticed when my bank occasionally does fundraisers for cancer or heart disease it gets to be more and more depressing energetically for a while. People write the names of their deceased on all those little paper thingies, you know, and hang them all over the bank. The energy of all that grief just builds and builds. I don't know how the tellers can stand it. I appreciate the generousity for medical research, but I get to where I really hate going in the bank until it slowly dissipates.

    Places with lots of people's memories attached get strange and frequently unpleasant. On the other hand, I've been in some old churches that had just so much great energy- all those people praying and reaching out to God.
     
  10. InLove

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    Hi, Peace--

    Thanks, path_of_one. I have realized that I don't really want to stay completely away (unless I get a real vacation!). I just think I will endeavor to post a little more carefully and thoughtfully, and avoid it altogether when my mind is tired. Read more, post less, I suppose.:)

    Interesting thoughts about the fundraiser at the bank--you really are very observant. You do seem to perceive beyond those five basic "confirmed" senses.;)

    Last spring, my husband and I visited the "Our Lady of Loreto Chapel (Presidio La Bahia) in Goliad, Texas. There was a memorial wall there with the names of the people who were massacred and buried in a mass grave. It would have been so disturbing to me (especially since I can sympathize with both sides of the battle), but all around this mission and memorial were masses of wildflowers in full bloom that had been allowed to perpetuate in honor and memory of all those who lost their lives. It was through the beauty and overwhelming fragrance of these wildflowers that I felt those people speak to me. Listen to the lessons of history, they seemed to say.

    InPeace,
    InLove
     
  11. Nitai

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    Hare Krishna

    I am not expert in this topic but I read In the Vedic wisdom some interesting things relevant to this to this discussion.

    # There are basically three types of places
    ## the one which is said to be in ignorance awake bad feelings, insecurity, fear, craziness, sleepiness etc.
    ## these places are usually dark places with very little or no any sun light
    ## also the graveyards and other ghost-hunted places like crematoriums
    ## the desert where nothing can grow where no water is available is also considered place in the mode of ignorance

    ** those places which are categorized in the mode of passion are those where people are very active
    ** like in the cities e.g. the whole atmosphere is very passionate
    ** all those cars beeping, peoples screaming, pushing, and the bombardment of advertisements make everything very passionate
    ** according to spiritual consideration ones attention becomes many branched and that is not favorable for thinking about God.
    ** therefore, by yogis the passionate atmosphere of the city is not preferred

    # the place that is said to be in goodness emanates peaceful vibrations that pacify the mind
    # places of Goodness in the Vedas are mentioned to be the forests (where usually yogis like to go to meditate), the banks of the rivers and oceans all emanate pacifying vibrations conducive for meditation

    ### above these three types of places are the holy places that have relation to some of pastime of the Supreme Personality of Godhead when he came in His different forms or
    ### the holy place like the temples are places where great devotees attained perfection and thus are all considered places in the mode of pure goodness without any tinge of ignorance or passion. IOW these places are transcendental.
    ### the effect of this holy places on the consciousness is that they awake God-consciousness or remembrance of God, His pastimes and qualities etc.
    ### other special feature of the holy places is that there are many holy persons who can explain about God thus spiritually benefiting the visitors.
     
  12. InquisitiveInHalifax

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    I visitied New York City in May of 2002 (8 mos after the 9/11 tragedy), it being my first time there (hopefully not my last) I didn't know the streets all that well. Though I didn't consciously know it, I could feel it when we came near the former site of the twin towers. It was a very eery feeling, similar to the one you get when you walkk through a cemetary just after a funeral, if you know what I mean, but much more intense. At this time they had a ramp that you could pay to go to the top of and look down into the pit which was essentially an immense grave. No matter the social, spiritual or intellectual significance that I may have gotten from climbing up that ramp and looking down into the pit where the towers once stood I could not force myself to get any closer to that place. New York City was for me a place teeming with life except for the area surrounding that horrible hole in the earth, I'll never forget how sad it felt.
     
  13. Pathless

    Pathless Fiercely Interdependent

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    Huh, interesting. I'd say that you just described the three gunas of Indian (Hindu or Vedic, as you say) philosophy: tamas, rajas, and sattva. I don't think I've ever heard of them being connected to specific places before, but I guess it makes sense that someone would choose to do that. But what guna does the fourth kind of place you described relate to? You describe these places as transcendental--beyond the gunas? Places of samadhi, moksha, satori, enlightenment, Brahma, what have you?
     
  14. Guard

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    Difficult to say, As a Yorkshire man I tend to agree with Brian, there is no part of East Yorkshire that instills a feeling of power or grandeur in me at all yet when I venture to Cumbria with it's many pikes there is definitely a certain feeling that I could only describe as not so much powerful as moderately humbling and in some ways protective. Not just around the rocky terrain but also around the lakes.

    I have never felt anything like this around any of the henges or circles and I take nothing away from those who have and do feel something at these locations but I can't help wondering if some of those feelings are born of anticipation and expectation from the reports of previous visitors.
     
  15. iBrian

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    Funnily enough, I've noticed a feeling of isolation and calm around cairns and burial places - as if these were set up well away from settlements in the first place.

    The places that people lived seem far more powerful - I was up at Loch Leven near Kinross in Scotland recently, and that had a strong sense of presence up one of the hills on the Eastern shore. There was no prior expectation, but I had a unusual feeling of connection with a past people and their environment that seemed thousands of years old. When we drove back, we found a stone circle on the northern shore and I took that as confirmation that I wasn't entirely imagining it.
     

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