America became a closed prison for the blacks in the 1600's, and became more of an open prison in 1863.
You are trying to compare modern day gansta groups in Detroit with the Palestinian situation and rather randomly pointing at slavery as the cause of the former .... I have spoken to racist scum who are less biggoted in their views than you are on this subject.
No, that would be the equivalent of England meeting with the Real IRA. Dignifying a group of that kind with such a status would encourage escalation of the violence.
So the world insists that Palestine holds democratic elections but when they do and we don't like their choice we simply reject them ... yep that looks like democracy in action. The real IRA was never an elected government and nor was the IRA and yet to find peace we still had to talk to them ... it seems you don't want peace at any cost, unless it's on your terms.
Certainly there are innocent Palestinian victims (and Israelis who had it coming), but it is the Palestinian side which has a DELIBERATE POLICY of seeking out innocents to kill, and this has been their policy for 90 years now, with no sign that they intend to change.
and yet you have always failed to answer my questions about why you think the numbers of dead children in Ireland over 3 decades (7) was so disproportional to the numbers killed in Palestine in any given year (hundreds). This I would suggest is sufficient evidence to support that Israel also has such a deliberate policy, particularly when you look at some of the words of certain Israeli ministers past and present.
In this case the "International Law" in question was an invention of day-before-yesterday.
What a very blinkered view of history you have. These laws, which were already established but not written in stone, were developed through the Hague Convenstions (1907), the UN Charter (1945) and the Forth Geneva Conventions (1949) ... you can't see any correlation between the end of WWII and the UN Charter or Forth Geneva?
Probably not, it doesn't support Israel or blame Palestine.
It was "ten" years in Yassin's statement. Whatever "reporters" you are listening to are confabulators.
The fact that you simply keep repeating yourself means you are so closed minded you haven't even bothered to look it up and see if perhaps, by some strange quirk of fate, you might actually be wrong about something.
The 2004 offer was 10 years but in 1994, in a letter from prison, Yassin offered a 30 year truce (some reports suggested 100 years but 30 appears to be more accurate).
indymedia beirut | Ex-Mossad agent: Yassin Offered Israel a Truce | 24.03.2004 08:47
This article exists mainly in the blogosphere now but can be found on over 90 websites, with links to such sites as ABC news no longer active but as you can see Haaretz accepts that Yassin made a 20 year offer at that time.
Hamas: No room to implement long-term truce with Israel - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
Going to just repeat yourself again or can you finally accept that more than one offer has been made?
Keeping them disarmed would require a large occupation force for an indefinite duration, which would cost a lot of soldiers' lives; no nation is volunteering for such a job.
Gosh I wonder how we managed it in Ireland then!! All those ships of weapons that used to come across from the USA ... hmmm wonder where they have gone?
I was only in Northern Ireland briefly in 1976, so I cannot call myself an expert, but that certainly was not the impression I got.
I imagine I would be sick of the fighting if I blew myself up making bombs. Talk to soldiers who served there in the 60's and early 70's and watch old news reports .. they tell a very different story.
Indeed the people did get sick of the fighting, hence the talks and the peace process but we would still be bogged down in tit for tat murder if we had not started to talk to a terrorist organisation.
You did not talk to the Real IRA. Dealing with Fatah, despite its past, could be considered analogous to talking to Sinn Fein, but Hamas is something else.
Do you know who the Real IRA are?
Do you now who Sinn Fein are? The Provisional IRA was the military wing of Sinn Fein. One hand talks while the other hand fights ... sound familiar?
We did talk to them right through the peace process, because they were members of the Provisional IRA
. When the peace deal was agreed the Provisional IRA split into those who would accept the deal (majority) and those who would not. Those who woud not created the splinter group the Real IRA.
The same would happen with Hamas if a peace deal was negotiated, the loonies would still go on ranting and fighting but the majority would be sick of fighting and settle for peace. In over a decade in Ireland there have been only 2 British soldiers killed by the Real IRA. That is a dreadful situation under control, compared to the old days and one peaceful Israeli's and Palestinians would, I feel sure, prefer to what they have now.
I keep hearing from you this lie (there isn't a politer word for it) that the Palestinian violence is caused by the occupation, when I am old enough to remember that the cause-and-effect is exactly the opposite of that.
Now you're talking testicles. As I have stated many times I blame a number of groups for the problem we see in Palestine/Israel.
Let's start with the Ottoman Empire and Ottoman Land Code of 1858. The Muslims, Jews and Christians who had lived on the land for generations and generations were in this way legally deprived of their land. So let's find those people, give them back their land and tell everyone else to sod off.
Then we have the Zionists (as I understand the term) who plotted and planned in Europe from the 1880's or possibly before, who's aim was "to redeem the land of Palestine as the inalienable possession of the Jewish people"
Next we have Britain and France, the iconic colonialist powers, and after they made a mess of it the UN. With this group we have the Arab countries who stood by and allowed this land to be carved up and handed out like smarties at a kids birthday party.
In 1919 Balfour wrote "The contradiction between the letter of the Covenant (the Anglo French Declaration of 1918 promising the Arabs of the former Ottoman colonies that as a reward for supporting the Allies they could have their independence) is even more flagrant in the case of the independent nation of Palestine
than in that of the independent nation of Syria. For in Palestine we do not propose even to go through the form of consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants of the country...The four powers are committed to Zionism and Zionism
, be it right or wrong, good or bad, is rooted in age-long tradition, in present needs, in future hopes, of far profounder import than the desire and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land"
Then I blame Israel and Palestine (governments and leaders) for the tit for tat killing and unwillingness of both sides to accept the situation, as it is now and work toward peace.
Yes I believe the reason we see 12 year old Palestinians in the streets throwing rocks today is because of the occupation of their land and the treatment they receive from Israel. We see Jewish children writing messages on bombs with big smiles on their faces because of the rocket attacks.
War is dehumanising and we have to find some way to bring some humanity to the region ... however I am quite happy to spread the blame around, Lord knows there's enough to go around!!
Of course the problem we have is neither side will relinquish right to the land and it's my belief that Palestinians (Muslims, Jews and Christians) have a much stronger moral right to it.
whether you like it or not, the poor and weak nations really have nothing to say about it,
Left this until last, as I found it STAGGERING.
You belong to a minority group in society. A group who were once politically weak and poor (in terms of rights). That group have been fighting tooth and nail for their right of equality. By and large the general public have backed this fight and a number of our laws have now been changed to provide specific rights for this minority group.
This year, in a town about 15 miles from me, a female Baptist preacher was arrested for standing in the street and saying "homosexuality is sinful".
Then you have the audacity to sit there in your birthday suit and type that the "weak and poor" have nothing to say about it. I wonder what your life would be like now had the response to the gay rights movement been "you have nothing to say about it".
It appears you are not only a bigot but a hypocrite as well.