Christian Evangelicals torture and kill children

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The facts about the african witch hunts just show that regardless of what the true teachings of a religion is (i.e. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc), its individual followers would still find a way to distort it in their own sick way, resulting in the horrible acts of crimes we have been witnessing: terrorism, ethnic cleansing, genocides, witch hunts, etc.
No religion teaches those. Although I am not a scholar, I will challenge anyone saying that the religions teach such.

Oddly enough, history has shown us that not practicing religion also goes along with people being asshats. Instead of doing it in the name of "God", atrocities are committed in the name of "Reason", "the Revolution", "the People", etc.
 

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That is so true Dogbrain.

Watched the Dispatches documentary last night and guess what, it was a 10 month undercover investigation into the "witch children" of UK.

I take back what I said in my last post ... they are torturing and killing children here too. :mad:

It's a business and has nothing to do with religion (other than using it to make money), these pastors are charging hundreds or thousands of pounds to un-witchify these children.

I was amazed last night to hear a lady from Somalia say that you cannot question pastors as they are the living god on earth :eek: If anyone in the African community challenges the pastor he simply declares them a witch and the whole society rejects them.
 

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Eisenhower was not on the beaches on D-Day. Does that mean that Rommel pushed Eisenhower's men back into the sea?

Pattons have their places, but so do Eisenhowers.
The General of the Army is just that, and can't be on the front line. That's why he has two/three/four stars that are supposed to be...
 

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The General of the Army is just that, and can't be on the front line. That's why he has two/three/four stars that are supposed to be...

However, according to your alleged "reasoning", Eisenhower could not be the best, because he was not on the front line. You wrote that the best are on the front line.
 

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However, according to your alleged "reasoning", Eisenhower could not be the best, because he was not on the front line. You wrote that the best are on the front line.
Indeed, that is exactly what Eisenhower stated.
 

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That is so true Dogbrain.

Watched the Dispatches documentary last night and guess what, it was a 10 month undercover investigation into the "witch children" of UK.

I take back what I said in my last post ... they are torturing and killing children here too. :mad:

It's a business and has nothing to do with religion (other than using it to make money), these pastors are charging hundreds or thousands of pounds to un-witchify these children.

I was amazed last night to hear a lady from Somalia say that you cannot question pastors as they are the living god on earth :eek: If anyone in the African community challenges the pastor he simply declares them a witch and the whole society rejects them.
There is a woman I know quite well, who was "disowned" by her family, because she changed faiths and married a "non believer". At first she cried and was in shock, and then she carried out what "she" was taught by them.

She declared her father would never, ever see his grand children, neither would her mother if she didn't speak out, turned on her heal, and never looked back...

Mother must have said something, because she was allowed (or insisted) at being at the church. Must have resonated in the father, because he came to the reception. He could not bear to not be able to see his prodgeny, or his daughter again...

My point is, the woman stood up and challenged the established status quo, with an ultimatum the "leaders" could not ignore. She pointed out that they would lose more than she ever could. She took their power over her right out from under their feet, and didn't even blink.
 

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There is a woman I know quite well, who was "disowned" by her family, because she changed faiths and married a "non believer". At first she cried and was in shock, and then she carried out what "she" was taught by them.

It's hard to fathom really Q but am glad to hear her parents relented in some small way.

I know my parents and I went through some rocky patches when I converted to Islam but at the end of the day they are my parents and I am their child. It always upsets me when Muslims say to me "forget your parents they are going to hell" .. I will leave that for Allah to decide but in this life I will love them and respect them, as they will always love and respect me.

Surely that is what's important in life, we don't have to all agree and believe the same things but we should still treat other with love and respect.
 

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..."forget your parents they are going to hell"

--> I am reminded of two movies. One is Fiddler on the Roof, where the main character Tevya disowns his own daughter and refuses to ever talk to her again because she marries a non-Jew. The other movie is My Big, Fat, Greek Wedding, where the English boyfriend of the Greek girl is forced to be baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church before they are allowed to get married. (I would never agree to such a thing.)

It is said that more evil is done in the name of religion in this world than for any other reason, and quite frankly, sometimes I agree.
 

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..."forget your parents they are going to hell"

--> I am reminded of two movies. One is Fiddler on the Roof, where the main character Tevya disowns his own daughter and refuses to ever talk to her again because she marries a non-Jew.

Too bad you never saw the actual movie. He ultimately relents. And it is not his religion that makes him disown his daughter, it is his own stiff-necked nature. "If I bend this far, I will break!" is Tevye's line. He's a man late in middle age who has been forced to accept change after change, and some changes take him more time to come to peace with--but come to peace he does.

The other movie is My Big, Fat, Greek Wedding, where the English boyfriend

English? I did not know that Pennsylvania was in England!!!!!
 

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I think most of you are missing the point. This is not about whether Christianity is responsible or not. In fact it would be really hard to consider those horrendous acts to be called Christianity today, or in fact in the past as well.

Isolating these incidents to Africa, I believe this phenomena is a form of child sacrifice in disguise. In poor mountainous areas I heard once that those communities in the past had tendencies to sacrifice children in order to cope with the lack of resources. Unfortunately these practices in my view still persist in modern forms.

I do believe that since Christianity and Buddhism were founded roughly 2000 years ago, such practices were abandoned worldwide. Degenerates who insist that such traditions be continued should be rightfully executed. This is just a natural order of things. Whether that particular execution is condoned in any religion, frankly I don't care. As killing children is one of the top sins that rank at the top if not The top, in our hearts.

Talking about a death wish, if one wants to die, killing children is a very swift path to accomplishing such goals as we all know.
 
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