reincarnation question

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  1. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    No, it is possible to regain human form when the balance of bad karmas goes down with stay in hell.
     
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  2. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Thanks Aup. As I said, I can accept the concept of rebirth of some sort of personal essence/soul into various states and worlds and dimensions, but have trouble accepting the 'common' idea of repetitive reincarnation upon this planet.
     
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    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Tibetan Wheel of Life
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhavacakra

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    The bhavachakra consists of the following elements:

    1. The pig, rooster and snake in the hub of the wheel represent the three poisons of ignorance, attachment and aversion.

    2. The second layer represents karma.

    3. The third layer represents the six realms of samsara.

    4. The fourth layer represents the twelve links of dependent origination.

    5. The fierce figure holding the wheel represents impermanence. It is also Yama, the god of death.[8]

    6. The moon above the wheel represents liberation from samsara or cyclic existence.

    7. The Buddha pointing to the white circle indicates that liberation is possible.

    Symbolically, the three inner circles, moving from the center outward, show that the three poisons of ignorance, attachment, and aversion give rise to positive and negative actions; these actions and their results are called karma. Karma in turn gives rise to the six realms, which represent the different types of suffering within samsara.

    The fourth and outer layer of the wheel symbolizes the twelve links of dependent origination; these links indicate how the sources of suffering—the three poisons and karma—produce lives within cyclic existence.

    The fierce being holding the wheel represents impermanence; this symbolizes that the entire process of samsara or cyclic existence is impermanent, transient, constantly changing. The moon above the wheel indicates liberation. The Buddha is pointing to the moon, indicating that liberation from samsara is possible …
     
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  4. Thomas

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    Ditto that.
     
  5. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    No one is forcing you to do that. :D
     
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  6. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Where Hinduism believes we probably go through many human rebirths upon this planet, Buddhism believes a human birth is special and not likely to be repeated? Just trying to get clarity?

    I mean to get clarity in my own mind
     
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  7. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    Well, as an atheist Advaitist Hindu, I too believe there is no rebirth in the main-line Hindu sense, though I stand for chemical recycling, if anyone takes that as rebirth. After my death, the molecules of my body will be omnipresent in the world, perhaps one in Antarctica and another in Arctic. :D
     
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  8. RabbiO

    RabbiO הרב יונה בן זכריה

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    OK, that makes 3 we can cross off the list of potential Hasidic Jews. I shouldn’t slight @Cino so let’s make that 4! (All noted with the rabbi’s tongue firmly in cheek.)
     
  9. Cino

    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic) Admin

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    Thank you. My understanding of Hasidic belief in transmigration is very basic, can you elaborate?
     
  10. wil

    wil UNeyeR1 Moderator

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    I really like that about your comments in this thread!

    If you are X than you will be reincarnated.

    If you are Y than you will return to dust

    If you are saved you will go to heaven

    You are expressing the various beliefs (as i see it) as fact...

    This is what you/they believe and you/they will be saddled by the parameters of that belief.

    That to me is incredibly refreshing.

    It falls into the "Don't believe in gay marriage? Dont do it. Don't believe in abortion? Dont get one." For mě.
     
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  11. Bhaktajan II

    Bhaktajan II Hare Krishna Yogi

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    do you believe in reincarnation and why?

    The individual soul reincarnates BUT the present ego does NOT reincarnate.

    The soul transmigrates to a new birth as per past karma allows. But with a whole new set of bodily identification.
     
  12. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Search, be your own guru.

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    If I think as a theist - sure, bodily identifications are not carried over. But karmas are. And they will have some effect on ego. The slate is not wiped out, Prarabhda Karmas.
    So, I think, ego too reincarnates. Though it may have been modified by stays in heaven and hell.
    Sort of, more knowing now, or chastened. :)

    Jada Bharata was born as a simpleton, but he still had the knowledge of Brahman, etc.
     
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