Judaism not founded by Abraham

Discussion in 'Judaism' started by Ansel Thompson, Sep 28, 2016.

  1. Ansel Thompson

    Ansel Thompson New Member

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    You are not keeping pace with the discussion.
    Do you know that with Internet and it's resources including professional persons, a lot of conflicting and confusing issues can be cleared in record time?
     
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  2. Ansel Thompson

    Ansel Thompson New Member

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    No this just confirm that the knowledge I have you don't, I told you look it up, use Bible index, after it is proven that it is not in there you can talk, I use less than a minute to manually find things in the Bible, the Internet search does in a flash.
     
  3. Aussie Thoughts

    Aussie Thoughts Just my 2 cents

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    Mate, when you come to court, it's up to you to prove your case. The judge is not going to do it for you. You've come to court woefully unprepared. Case dismissed!
     
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  4. A Cup Of Tea

    A Cup Of Tea An ordinary cup of tea

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    Ansel, I don't recognize any of the conclusion you are drawing since you got here. If you want to discuss with us you have to be patient enough to show us what bits of information made you draw the conclusions you have. Be like Jesus, he was very patient.
     
  5. Devils' Advocate

    Devils' Advocate Well-Known Member

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    Well ain't you just spheschall. I won't waste any more of your time then. Or more importantly, mine.
     
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  6. Ansel Thompson

    Ansel Thompson New Member

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    That is why you can't be your own judge, you dismiss the case and set yourself free.
     
  7. Ansel Thompson

    Ansel Thompson New Member

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    Insultive
     
  8. Ansel Thompson

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    I have given tons of information, it is still here, you have a problem with understanding.
     
  9. A Cup Of Tea

    A Cup Of Tea An ordinary cup of tea

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    I have no problem with that being your opinion, it's going to be a bit lonely for you though burning bridges the way you do. Good luck, mate.
     
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  10. Aussie Thoughts

    Aussie Thoughts Just my 2 cents

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    Yuh miss de point mon!;)
     
  11. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    We tried.
     
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  12. BigJoeNobody

    BigJoeNobody Professional Argument Attractor

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    I know I'm late, but are you using a translation of the Bible as your source of what Judaism is? Also are you saying the religion that Abraham(PBUH) brought, and Moses (PBUH) clarified are not legitimate and that only after David (PBUH) his descendants are the only real Jews (a name given to the tribe of Judea)? I might be a little rust in my late OT knowledge, but i think you have an uphill battle explaining to people that you have learned more from a translated copy that scholars have learned through rigorous studies in what appears to be original texts.
     
  13. Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

    Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine Junior Moderator, Intro Staff Member

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    The OP cannot reply since he was banned ("trolling" I believe, but don't quote me here.)

    Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
     
  14. BigJoeNobody

    BigJoeNobody Professional Argument Attractor

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    oh well... seems several instances of such characters surfacing
     
  15. timotheos

    timotheos New Member

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    Peace,

    Abraham was not a jew or a christian, rather he was an honest one of soundness, and he was not of the polytheists - quran 3:67
     
  16. David Freund

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    Judaism is defined by descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who are committed to follow the Torah. Judaism is not simply a religion that is defined by practice as is Christianity. Judaism is also a family/nation/people of which Abraham was the original ancestor.
     
  17. David Freund

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    Or your concept could be all wrong. The Hebrew Bible never refers to Jews as Jews. Jews of the day were "Israelites", or "Israel", or "Jacob". The term "Jew" came into existence only after the 12 tribes of Israel were substantially reduced to the tribe of Judah. The Messiah is defined as the descendant of David, who was of the tribe of Judah, that would continue David's throne. Even the Christian Bible goes to great pains in Matthew and Luke to attempt to prove that Jesus was descended from David. So check out your sources and verify them lest you be guilty of spreading lies.
     
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  18. David Freund

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    I wouldn't worry about the patent issue. The United States patent office is in charge of enforcement of patents. However, when it comes to Judaism, God is the Enforcer. There is but one origin for the term "Jew" and that is from the Hebrew that refers to the tribe of "Judah" or, in Hebrew, "Yehudah".
     
  19. Abe1234

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    actually in Genesis 49:1 Jacob wanted to reveal to his sons the date of the messiah , but God didn't let him.
     
  20. Abe1234

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    The belief in Judaism is based on the Egyptian exodus and the giving of the Torah on Mount Sinai. it is the only revelation of any religion done in public and has real names and dates to back it up.
     

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