Is Islam peaceful?

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  1. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    Why?
     
  2. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    For the same reason others think their scripture or belief is.
     
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  3. OrtaYol

    OrtaYol Active Member

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    Because I have been unable to find a flaw despite my best efforts.
     
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  4. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    Honest truth is I haven't read it. Can you recommend an English translation that won't cost too much?
     
  5. muhammad_isa

    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    Marmaduke Pickthall's translation is concise and fairly reliable, imo
     
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    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    Thanks very much. I want a paper copy? I want a good translation?
     
  7. OrtaYol

    OrtaYol Active Member

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    To be honest all translations are flawed in someway. As someone who doesn't speak or read Arabic I try to use as many interpretations as I can, but this is only necessary for certain passages where there may be some confusion or controversy. For 99% of the Quran any of the popular translations will be fine. I would recommend the interpretation by A.J Arberrry.

    Here are Pickthals words on the matter:

    ‘The aim of this work is to present to English readers what Muslims the world over hold to be the meaning of the words of the Koran, and the nature of that Book, in not unworthy language and concisely, with a view to the requirements of English Muslims. It may be reasonably claimed that no Holy Scripture can be fairly presented by one who disbelieves its inspiration and its message; and this is the first English translation of the Koran by an Englishman who is a Muslim. Some of the translations include commentation offensive to Muslims, and almost all employ a style of language which Muslims at once recognize as unworthy. The Koran cannot be translated. That is the belief of old-fashioned Sheykhs and the view of the present writer. The Book is here rendered almost literally and every effort has been made to choose befitting language. But the result is not the Glorious Koran, that inimitable symphony, the very sounds of which move men to tears and ecstasy. It is only an attempt to present the meaning of the Koran — and peradventure something of the charm — in English. It can never take the place of the Koran in Arabic, nor is it meant to do so.
     
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    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    Thank you. I'll check it out
     
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    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    Thanks @OrtaYol
    I've ordered it for £6.99 new from Blackwells online, free delivery. Amazon charges £16.99
     
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    OrtaYol Active Member

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    That is a very good price. Enjoy mate. :)
     
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    I should add, I look forward to learning your thoughts on it once you get through it. Or if you have any thoughts/questions along the way.
     
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    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    It hasn't arrived yet. I look forward to just reading it.
     
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  13. Olzhas

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    Yes Islam very peaceful
     
  14. Cino

    Cino Big Love! (Atheist mystic) Staff Member

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    welcome to the forums, Olzhas!

    Would you like to introduce yourself, in the introductions section?
     
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    Nicholas Weeks Bodhicitta

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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    I totally agree with you.
    However, I don't think it's right just to single out Muslims as not being peaceful.
    I would agree that it appears as if Muslims are causing more trouble in the world than any other faith group.
    The reason for this is complex, and has a lot to do with political history, imo.
     
  17. Nicholas Weeks

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    Just focusing on these honor killings, not troubles in the entire world. Is there a practice of honor killings among non-Muslims anywhere? I do not know, just wondering.
     
  18. muhammad_isa

    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    ..perhaps ask @Aupmanyav .. I think it's quite common in India, and not just amongst Muslims.
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    May God shower His blessings of the month of Ramadan on all.

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    Dome of the Rock, Temple Mount, Jerusalem
     
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