True and false wisdom

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  1. ~estrella~

    ~estrella~ Active Member

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    Re: True and false wisdom / David R. Hawkins

    I am astonished that noone here (I only found a very rare number of posters when I did a research) seems to know David R. Hawkins, one of his books is entitled "Truth versus Falsehood". So, in his books, you might find a lot of information about right or wrong teachings. (I found that my intuition is quite accurate, more than I could have thought before, that has strengthened my path a lot!)

    some excerpts, taken from this site:
    SpiritualWiki - ZitateBuch4
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    As it is a German website, "page"="p." is abbreviated "S.".
    See also:
    Veritas Publishing

    David R. Hawkins revealed the truth in Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism, (etc), and the falsehood of certain interpretation of these.

    Also, he insists as many teachings do, on the difference of "knowing about" and "knowing". You may know a lot about God, but what do you really "know"? The first thing we might want to seek is experiences to tell us, what is it about, where is our path.
    As I see it, the spiritual path may take three forms, none is better than the other, each complements the others, and there may be times in our life where the one or the other is more important.

    These are: the path of knowledge (through more or less direct experiences), of service (work) and of devotion. All three have been elaborated in Hinduism, and partially in other teachings.
     
  2. arthra

    arthra Baha'i

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    The two wings...



    Religion and Science are inter-twined with each other and cannot be separated. These are the two wings with which humanity must fly. One wing is not enough. Every religion which does not concern itself with Science is mere tradition, and that is not the essential. Therefore science, education and civilization are most important necessities for the full religious life.

    ~ Abdu'l-Baha, Abdu'l-Baha in London, p. 28
     
  3. Paladin

    Paladin Purchased Bewilderment

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    Re: True and false wisdom / David R. Hawkins

    Actually Estrella I have read all of his books, I think Snoopy might have read them a bit also, but my memory isn't all that it used to be.
    I find his books and ideas interesting, but in practice I note that more research needs doing.
    Do you have a partner that can help you practice the techniques?
     
  4. Snoopy

    Snoopy Well-Known Member

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    Re: True and false wisdom / David R. Hawkins

    Try as "we" might, we can't know everything! So it's a good job you've joined us :)

    Everyone brings something to the party :)

    even if it's only cocktail sticks :eek:

    ...sorry....................
     
  5. ~estrella~

    ~estrella~ Active Member

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    Re: True and false wisdom / David R. Hawkins

    Do you mean the k-testing with practicing?
    No, I have no help, and I did not yet begin with k-testing. I would point out two sides of Hawkins' "teachings": the first are the k-testing side, the other is the teachings in themselves: the spiritual path. And even without k-testing, there is a lot of wisdom there. And concerning the k-testing: his own results in the books (published in parts on the site I've mentioned) are of a lot of help, too. So, as I've never yet encountered a "religion" or "teachings" that I can completely take over for me, Hawkins' books showed me that yet, all that sounded right for me (together with my own experiences) had been in the realm of truth.
    For instance you may know from the books which path (religion or whatever) is sane to follow, which is not. I have not only read Hawkins, either. But I've not read many things..... each time just enough to go on.
    and ...... Snoopy, thanks for the ;)welcome:)
     
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    Re: True and false wisdom / David R. Hawkins

    Neither's mine :p

    My memory says it's never heard of him. :)

    s.
     
  7. Snoopy

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    Re: True and false wisdom / David R. Hawkins

    You're welcome :)

    s.
     
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    I believe Korean Buddhists specify these: wisdom, compassion, and fearlessness. That would explain why Korean birds have three wings. :)
     
  9. Snoopy

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    Maybe that's a sort of guidance system, like a dorsal fin :rolleyes:

    s.
     
  10. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    Would fearlessness be the avoidance of escapism?
     
  11. Paladin

    Paladin Purchased Bewilderment

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    Really Snoopy? I thought you had read Power vs Force

     
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    Snoopy Well-Known Member

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    Don't think so. And never smoked pot neither!

    s.
     
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    5 hours :eek:


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  14. ~estrella~

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    Indeed there is some higher power operating in us, which acts continuously on our being. It is indeed not a part of the programming. Wisdom is the knowledge of what is, and we get it by connecting to the higher Source, the connection is first felt as intuition. Then in time it becomes more and more firm.
     
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    :)meant that about me
     
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    It would then stand to reason that this higher power is not differentiated not separated as traditional religion might point out. Now mysticism comes into play and says this power operates through us and as us.
    The illusion of separation dissolves as the emphasis on the ego or self dissolves.
    At that point I think we can choose to operate through ego as our needful persona but knowing the reality of non differentiate, non-dualistic existence.
     
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    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    ...and your point is...moot. (damn it I used a non sequeter to express a non issue).
     
  18. Paladin

    Paladin Purchased Bewilderment

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    Did you mean a non sequitur? That it doesn't follow that my point is moot? sorry to be dense Q the doc has me on hydrocodone after jaw surgery, I must be rambling.
     
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    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    I differ, but watch where you swing that sword... (lol) :D
     
  20. Paladin

    Paladin Purchased Bewilderment

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    Oh, I see, quite right for you to differ.
    Actually, it was a periodontist and a very little knife that did the deed. Bone grafts and implants and all that. should be right as rain in a few months.
     

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