Mercuraen?

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  1. Thomas

    Thomas Administrator Admin

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    OK ... I cannot speak for the LHP, but I am of the opinion that having made certain assumptive errors about the RHP, I would not rely on it to inform me of the LHP, is all.

    I think your posts so far have been more enlightening and, again a personal opinion, informative and reliable.
     
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  2. 'Amir Alzzalam

    'Amir Alzzalam Šayṭānist

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    You cannot be doing the bidding of both the Right Hand Path and the Left Hand Path, you are either on one or the other.
    Why?
    The Right Hand Path involves the intentional effort to dissolve or merge the self into some form of Absolute/Supreme Being
    The Left-Hand Path involves the conscious attempt to preserve and strengthen one’s isolate consciousness 'against' an Absolute. To absolve one's self into an Absolute is antithetic to the LHP goals. Perhaps a third 'path' exists, but it would be in the form of atheism.
     
  3. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    Or just not believing in Absolute. One does not need to be atheistic for that. (Taoism's the only constant is Change.)
     
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  4. RJM

    RJM God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    From where do the 'majik powers' sought after by the LHP adherent originate? Are they purely of natural origin? Does the LHP deny the higher dimension (house) of Spirit that surrounds and contains and permeates the lower dimension (room) of nature, or does the LHP reject or fail to acknowledge the greater wheel of Spirit that turns the lesser wheel of nature, but is not turned by it?
     
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    RJM God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Does the LHP set itself up as nature in opposition to Spirit?
     
  6. RJM

    RJM God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    But is this constant flux not caused by the interweaving between Heaven and earth -- between timeless Spirit and transient nature?
     
  7. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    Another possibility would involve the nature of sentience. Sentience is possessing a subjective mind. Any sentient being is vulnerable to delusion via confusing subjective content for objective content. If God is sentient, then God is also subject to delusion. If one wants to help a deluded God, one would have to separate from it and create something that couldn't possibly be a product of "God's all powerful mind."
     
  8. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    not necessarily
     
  9. 'Amir Alzzalam

    'Amir Alzzalam Šayṭānist

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    Majiqal powers are not considered supernatural powers. There is Lesser Majiq (the influencing of beings, processes) and Greater Majiq (causing of change to occur in the subjective universe in accordance with the Will).

    We have what is referred to as a Greater self/Godself. However, mythology may have a place in many LHP adherents' work.
     
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  10. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    Would that would be Samkhya's purusa and prakrti?
     
  11. RJM

    RJM God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    Could be. I'm not very familiar with Buddhism terms.
    It would seem unwise to do so? A bit like the flea setting itself up in opposition against the dog it's on?
     
  12. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    That's not Buddhist. Samkhya is one of the Astika schools of Hinduism. (Buddhism is considered Nastika by Hindus)
    Is it wise to make such assumptions that would then lead to such possibly erroneous models?
     
  13. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    This would be not losing one's ego (reality principle) to superego's perfecting principle or id's pleasure principle. One is maintaining one's own individual mind here. (Which would be a goal of Western LHP)
     
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  14. RJM

    RJM God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    I thought it might be Hindu. Same applies.
    I think nature provides valuable analogies, not always perfect. I also think Spiritual law can often seem to contradict natural law.
     
  15. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    You can trust me that that is the gist of Samkhya or you can check it out for yourself. :)
    In this case, which came first? The assumption or the analogy? Did the flea on the back of the dog give rise to "Eureka! everything is dependent upon Spirit!"
     
  16. RJM

    RJM God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    I trust you, lol
    So it's back to asking?
     
  17. seattlegal

    seattlegal Mercuræn Buddhist

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    I'm saying that I don't necessarily agree with your original premise, and was asking if it is indeed wise to hold such a premise. (Since your original question was about wisdom in regard to the premise.)
     
  18. RJM

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    Ok. I accept that.
     
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    RJM God Feeds the Ravens Admin

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    I'm asking whether the LHP denies the existence of a 'higher power' beyond nature -- of Spirit -- or whether it accepts such a Spirit power but refuses to 'submit to its authority' -- whether because that Spirit power is judged incompetent or evil, or limited, or for whatever reason?
     
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  20. 'Amir Alzzalam

    'Amir Alzzalam Šayṭānist

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    Personally, I don't believe in any higher power other than my Greater Self/GodSelf. Others on the LHP may disagree.
     
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