Reading with New Eyes, Hearing with New Ears

That is a change I have to make within my own self, so it is a work in progress. Not sure there is enough time in eternity for me to change. :confused::D
The struggle is real my brother.

In this case I feel it would be worthy to examine what your goal/mission was in creating this thread....what others perceive of your goal and what you wrote. Examining their responses to look insure you are all on the same wavelength.
 
Come on, RJM, you've plowed through impenetrable Taoist texts...

@Tone Bristow-Stagg is there a "key" for getting into the language of the texts? Something like "nightingale = Baha'u'llah" and so on?
Especially as the Baha'i message is supposed to be 'suited to the age it is given'
Baha'u'llah took what was of Jesus the Christ and showed it unto us.
IMO Jesus did that himself
 
Come on, RJM, you've plowed through impenetrable Taoist texts...

@Tone Bristow-Stagg is there a "key" for getting into the language of the texts? Something like "nightingale = Baha'u'llah" and so on?

Good question Cino. Not that I am aware of. Those that speak Arabic and Persian and are familiar with Persian Mystic poetry, would know some if the meaning.

Baha'u'llah uses nightingales a lot in his writings and associated the singing of nightingale or dove to his revelation.

This is a recent translated poem of Baha’u’llah, it has an amazing story as to how it was revealed.

https://johnshatcher.com/2020/07/04/qaṣidiy-i-izz-i-varqaiyyih-ode-of-the-dove/

it has this footnote, that mentions nightingale, but you will see that there is a lot of tradition also take

"Qáf is a legendary high mountain made of emerald that surrounds the world and is the place in which the phoenix (‘anqá) has made its nest. In mystical literature it refers to the spiritual and divine realm in which human hearts need to abide. In the Persian Hidden Word #1, “the mount” is a translation of the word Qáf: “The first call of the Beloved is this: O mystic nightingale! Abide not but in the rose-garden of the spirit. O messenger of the Solomon of love! Seek thou no shelter except in the Sheba of the well-beloved, and O immortal phoenix! dwell not save on the mount of faithfulness.”

Regards Tony

IMO Jesus did that himself

The obvious question to then pose is, "If Muhammad, the Bab and Baha'u'llah are foretold in the Bible, and Jesus did prepare the way for them, then is it is not then apparent we did not understand what Jesus was offerring?

Consider, I am also from a Christian, from a background of Sunday Shool taught and bred, mother and sisters that are born again and a father and brother that are Athiests.

Regards Tony
 
Especially as the Baha'i message is supposed to be 'suited to the age it is given'

That is the Moral and Material Guidance and Laws that are applicable. Pick an issue the world now faces Baha'u'llah has given the solution back in the 1800's.

Religion is progressive, and as man evolves, so does our spiritual capacity. So many writings have numerous meanings, it is up to us to discover them. The Bab and Baha'u'llah ushered in the Age of Fulfillment, which will last for at least 500,000 years, the next Messenger will come in around another 850 years. So we already know we will make mistakes.

It is better to discuss all our possibilities.

Regards Tony
 
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