I'm aware this might offend some...

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  1. Scarlet Pimpernel

    Scarlet Pimpernel demned elusive

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    I told lunamoth to check the Lounge for an update, though I’m worried that this may very quickly end up more appropriate for the Politics and Society forum.

    First off, in general, I’m doing fine – still preparing for graduation (one semester left, yahoo!) and for job-hunting. On top of that I’ve usually got one or two auditions and one or two concerts every month, so I’ve got plenty to keep me busy.




    The main thing going on in my life is this:


    Love shook my heart

    like the wind on the mountain

    rushing over the oak trees

    - Sappho





    Scarlet Pimpernel

    and

    Marguerite St. Just

    are pleased to announce

    that they will be legally married

    in a private ceremony

    on Tuesday, the twenty-first of February

    Two thousand six

    Maastricht, the Netherlands




    I snailmailed this to a few members of my family in the US (with our real names, of course). I’ve been putting it off emailing it to the rest (I know email is not proper ettiquette but I don’t have snailmail addresses for everyone, besides which, overseas postage is shockingly expensive) for the same reason I’ve been putting off posting it here: fear of people’s reaction.



    My reason for posting it here in the first place is not to offend anyone, or to wave my sexuality under anyone’s nose, or anything like that. It is simply that I care about the people who post here (as odd as it seems to care about people one has never actually met, I do), this is an important and joyous occurrence in my life, and I want to share it.



    It seems ridiculous that, that being the case, I feel the need to couch my announcement in layers of apologetics. My partner and I are not trying to make a mockery of the institution of marriage. Far from it – it is because we have so much respect for marriage that we have made this decision. We love each other and want to spend our lives together, and want to publicly announce and solidify that commitment. We also want recognition of that commitment, from family and friends as well as from the Dutch government.



    This ceremony will not take place in a house of worship – by Dutch law a civil marriage or registered partnership must take place first, followed by an optional religious ceremony (optional from the point of view of the government, of course). As neither my partner nor I are church-goers, and setting aside the difficulty of finding a clergyperson willing to perform a same-sex ceremony, having a church ceremony would seem to be pretending to be something we are not, and ultimately more disrespectful than only having a civil ceremony would be.



    I fully expect some people here to be upset by this, just as I expect certain members of my family to be upset by it, or at least deeply confused. I’m not doing it, or even saying it, with the goal of upsetting you personally. Like I said, I care about the people here, and that’s why I want to share it with all of you. As a matter of fact, maybe if this starts a dialogue, that will lead to more openness and understanding.

     
  2. juantoo3

    juantoo3 ʎʇıɹoɥʇnɐ uoıʇsǝnb

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    Kindest Regards, Scarlet Pimpernel!

    For what it is worth, my views on same sex marriage are irrelevent to your (and your partner's) happiness. My views are correct for me.

    Having said this, I can care about the person(s) and overlook those things I may disagree with. I wish you both happiness. Good luck!
     
  3. Kaldayen

    Kaldayen Spiritual ronin

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    Congratulations Scarlet! I'm very happy for you both! I wish you trust and understanding from your relatives and friends. :)
    ___
    Kal
     
  4. Pathless

    Pathless Fiercely Interdependent

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    Ah, CONGRATULATIONS to you both, Scarlet and Marguerite. What you are doing, in my opinion, is a bold, courageous, and empowering act. Although I don't 'know' either of you, I am happy for you and happy that you are celebrating your deep commitment to each other in a public way, despite the fear that you may feel. Everyone should be able to experience the joy, awe, and wonder of a life commitment to a partner and lover, if they so desire. No one should be denied this basic right simply because their choice of partner, or how they wish to express themselves, does not conform to the dominant paradigm.

    Blessings and Joy to you both in your marriage and throughout your life together. I send you wishes of wonderful times; courage in the face of adversity; a deep and abiding knowledge of who you are, your own spirits and essences; and wishes for understanding among your families and loved ones. Wishes for a fruitful, productive, and joyful life together.

    Congratulations, and more than that, thank you for having the courage to commit to each other in the face of oppression and fear. May you be admired and respected.

    Peace.
     
  5. Quahom1

    Quahom1 What was the question?

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    I wish you and yours well; a prosperous and long life.

    v/r

    Q
     
  6. lunamoth

    lunamoth Episcopalian

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    Congratulations to you and Marguerite, Scarlet! I wish you many years of happiness together. :)

    peace,
    lunamoth
     
  7. Scarlet Pimpernel

    Scarlet Pimpernel demned elusive

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    THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for all your well-wishes and congratulations! The people on this site always lift me up and make me feel blessed. Thank you especially to juan and Q for being able to look past your personal convictions in order to wish happiness to the person. I admire your strength.

    There's no deeply relieved and ecstatic smiley.
     
  8. brucegdc

    brucegdc Moderator

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    As others have said, congratulations and may your lives together be long and happy!

    ... Bruce
     
  9. iBrian

    iBrian Peace, Love and Unity Staff Member

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    Congrats. :)
     
  10. wil

    wil UNeyeR1

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    2 cool on tying the knot as it were!

    Awesome the leap of putting yourself on the line amongst your fellow posters to this forum and life.

    Absolutely fabulous on the positive responses from the crowd.


    It all tugs at my heart and moistens my eyes.

    Congrats Congrats Congrats!!!!
     
  11. Scarlet Pimpernel

    Scarlet Pimpernel demned elusive

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    I am honored by everyone's congratulations and words of support. Thank you all.
     
  12. 13 grigori to 13/3/6

    13 grigori to 13/3/6 New Member

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    Hey :eek:)

    You've said sorry to us. Now I want to say sorry to you.

    I'm sorry you have to take a risk when you tell people that you are getting married. I come from a different world (meaning I'm a bit of a loner) so I couldn't comment much on how I would feel if I was getting married, I would probably be miserable as I have alot of curses. However, from what I view in life and in movies and hear from relatives and friends and have read in books as a child, it is supposed to be the happiest occasion of your life. Instead, it is marred by disappointment and shock from not being able to fit in. I know what it's like, to feel oppressed, to know you are right when even those closest to you think you are wrong, and are so bloody sure that bitter hate slowly but surely builds up inside...but that's just me. Thank-you so much for saying that you care about us. It is courageous, but more than that, it was so innocent how you put it. And really nice. There is no need to say sorry at all to me, I'm not like that, and I never was. You're not raping or torturing or killing, you are just trying to do what is right, morally, by yourself, and by the one you love. I also worry about looking weird, or stuck-up, but I know you are really cool, and I guess if you eventually read this you will know I am too, and that's what counts. Kudos to you, and feel free to say anything to me as much as you wish to. Don't feel you (or anyone at all) shouldn't bother me, it's really stupid XD.

    Chris

    PS Just a heads up, I'll be posting some poetry soon (maybe tomorrow). I'm sure some of it will aid you in life. I wish you all the best for the wedding.
     
  13. 13 grigori to 13/3/6

    13 grigori to 13/3/6 New Member

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    Chris

    BTW I wasn't painting anyone in a bad light at all, I was just trying to help scarlet pimpernel (I actually don't know if they are male or female), but often I come across as holier than thou, or weird, and when people say that about me online, it makes me hate myself. You are all extremely precious, and to me too.
     
  14. Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

    Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine Junior Moderator, Intro Staff Member

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    Mazel tov, SP, and continued happiness for you and your partner.

    For anybody who re/acts like some of the American fundies:
    *the entire IF cattery empties, heading right for those who would try to rain on Scarlet Pimpernel's parade. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of :kitty: claws unsheathed*

    ROWR

    Don't look at them, especially the one that Princess Shaquoia just dealt with.
    :eek: :p

    Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
     
  15. pohaikawahine

    pohaikawahine Elder Member

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    congratulations both of you - wish you both all the best and much love .... aloha nui, pohaikawahine
     
  16. miclason

    miclason miclason

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    I haven't been in here forever and, today I'm browsing and, see what I find!!....what great news!!! congratulations!!
     
  17. Scarlet Pimpernel

    Scarlet Pimpernel demned elusive

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    I'm back at school (and internet) now. Thank you, everyone, for your loving words and congratulations. The 21st was a great day - the only thing marring it was the fact that none of my family could come over from the States. But we lit candles in honor of the people who couldn't be there, and the family members I care most about sent beautiful cards or called, and I know they were there in spirit.
    :D Thank you, Phyllis, for the :kitties: - they are much appreciated!
     
  18. truthseeker

    truthseeker New Member

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    Wow, Scarlet! Congratulations!

    I haven't been around for a while but I guess a congratulations is always in order - especially now that you have begun your legally committed life. Even in heterosexuality, the decision to commit, the wedding day and first days thereafter can be a heart-quickening experience. I guess we are all human, eh?;) :D My heart is warm with joy for you and your spouse; may God carry you in love and respect and keep you lifted in favor throughout your lives.
     
  19. ThePennyDrops

    ThePennyDrops New Member

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    Congratulations Scarlet. I think sexuality is completely irrelevant- when 2 people wishing to declare their lifelong commitment to each other, marriage is always a beautiful thing.

    I wish you all the blessings marriage can convey :)
     
  20. InLove

    InLove at peace

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    Hi Scarlet--

    Just saw this thread.

    I know just enough about you from the kind way you have treated me and others here to know that, with all my heart, I wish for you and your beloved one a journey of peace and light and love. I believe that Love knows each one of us by heart, and only in each of our hearts can Love's truth be discovered.

    InPeace,
    InLove
     

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