Ciel, I opine that we have done so "well" that our streets are less secure today than they were 50 years ago...but then back then, we were "naive" about life. Hmmm, naive and relatively safe then, knowledgable and more educated than our parents, but less sure now...tough one to call. v/r Joshua p.s. as an aside and an example: When I was a child in school, it was standard that any misbehavior on my part, might have gotten me a "paddling" from the principal, and one from my parents when I got home. Needless to say, I wouldn't do whatever I did, again. When my sons were at school (during the 80s and 90s), I had to present the principal of their school with a notarized letter specifically stating that that school had the authority to "paddle" their backsides should they misbehave (plus I provided them with the "board of education") paddle to do exactly that. They called me quaint, but promised if it came to such, they would discipline my children as I requested. They also thanked me for trusting their judgment to act on my behalf, pertaining to disciplining my children. (This was in Orange County California). They never had to use such measures, but my sons "KNEW" there were measures in place if THEY got an ass about them... Can't do that today. (what a shame).