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Kindest Regards, China Cat!
Whoo-ee! Its been awhile since I looked into "the Word" Logos, and I remember being absolutely blown away. The concept runs wide and deep, encompassing far more than just "a word." So, in one sense, the English translation is off to a bad start to begin with. Another point is whether or not John (Yohannan), reputed to having actually spent time in the presence of Jesus, actually used these Greek words himself. Paul, an itinerant tent maker used to moving across socio/cultural bounds, I can see speaking and writing in Greek. But a fisherman, from an out of the way little 'burb in Galilee? I don't see it.
To be sure, the Gospel of John is perhaps the most profound of all the Gospels, and the Logos passage is a big part of that. But is it true to the basis and origin? I don't know. I want it to be...but there are some questions.
I'm struggling with this Juan, because I always start from the point of view of the writer's craft. The best information I have is that none of the Gospels were written by their namesakes. But I want to leave that aside, and I mostly want to take your pulse on how you think about these things since I think it will possibly help me with my wonderings.
I don't know how to make a coherent whole out of the various Jesus persons implied in the NT. One problem is that I can't find any reference to a specific, much less divine messiah in the OT. I don't see where they were looking for a specific person to come along and be the messiah. Perhaps this was a later adaptation of the zealot movements, perhaps they were looking for a messiah in the mold of Darius, but I can't find any specific reference to that. And I don't see anywhere in the OT where such a person, divine or not, would be expected to reverse "fallen nature", or mitigate "original sin", or take the place of the sacrificial lamb. To be clear, I'm saying that without looking through the NT lense, I don't find these concepts extant in the OT.
OTOH, the Logos is an all encompassing and totally groovy concept. But I can't figure out a way to tie IT into these other concepts.
Can you help me at all with that?