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paganprophet
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Bananabrain, there is no more religious authority for the sanhedrins, rabbis, priests, pastors, imams, or mullahs. God has taken it away but you don't know it and I do. It's our job as prophets to know such things.
Yes, you can throw the forum rules at me but if I'm kicked off again what have you accomplished? You really think anyone here thinks I'm selling snake oil remedies or breast implants? That's your created straw man to blow over but it isn't what I'm about. I have no religious cult organization to promote. I tell of what God has given me in mystical visions, revelations and God-guided research. It will be CR's loss if I am again not allowed to share this information because of ego turf battles.
Yes, you can throw the forum rules at me but if I'm kicked off again what have you accomplished? You really think anyone here thinks I'm selling snake oil remedies or breast implants? That's your created straw man to blow over but it isn't what I'm about. I have no religious cult organization to promote. I tell of what God has given me in mystical visions, revelations and God-guided research. It will be CR's loss if I am again not allowed to share this information because of ego turf battles.
So far you don't.
It is really quite simple, if you state your prophecy for us to read, contemplate, absorb, inquire, tear apart...as previous prophets have, I don't think you'll have issues here.
If you go to particular forums and inform them they are wrong in their beliefs or witness like crazy or promote your book, you'll be bounced. Pretty simple actually.
But if you are upto stating your beliefs and having discussions you'll be here for quite a while...
Now while I haven't met many prophets, the implication I have is that not many of them ran around, I'm a prophet, I'm a prophet without providing prophecy...
PS....I like profit. And I like profit, see. So prophet, I'm waiting to find if I can profit from your profit, see.
Dondi
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paganprophet said:
Your last membership? So now you're here under a different sock puppet proclaiming the same? I fear your membership will be short lived.
paganprophet said:
I'm sure that this is what Jim Jones and David Koresh must have thought as well.
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Oi!!! you stole my line!! You must be a bleedin prophet!!
Saltmeister
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Hi paganprophet,
I realise now that what you have is not something you'd like to call simply "a dream" but "a reality," or "a truth." Then there is what the collective of CR's members sees as a "reality" and "dream." But it seems that as members of CR claims to "reality" are seen as an intrusion to each of our respective individual identities. People start getting insulted when they're presented not with what is labelled as "beliefs" but "facts."
But then I can understand how you must feel when you are told your views are not "facts" but "beliefs" -- and likewise with everyone else here at CR. What I see here is rather like two universes with different perspectives. There is your universe and its respective facts and beliefs, and then there's that seen by CR collectively. With regards to beliefs/dreams and reality/facts, I suppose it sounds like we're taking what you see as reality/facts and labelling it as a belief/dream.
But I think the problem is, when one starts talking about reality/facts it starts becoming quite political. The thing about realities/facts is that they are universal -- they apply to everyone. Beliefs/dreams are localised and subjective -- each individual has their own concept. What a lot of us fear is that the concept of beliefs/dreams can be compromised if they are not seen as realities/facts. Somehow it's an attack/assault on our identity. Our beliefs/dreams, which we see as realities/facts isn't good enough. We feel rejected, despised and humiliated.
But what if we all asserted and aggressively maintained that our beliefs/dreams were not just beliefs/dreams but realities/facts? We'd have a war between a thousand or so members, all fighting to put their belief system or the flag or banner representing it, as the one on top of the hill. It's like a struggle over territorial claims.
But perhaps Brian's aim is to disarm the urge to put the flag/banner of one's perception of realities/facts on the hill and call them beliefs/dreams for the sake of keeping everyone happy.
In this diplomatic standoff, we are told to disarm and lay down our weapons. To stand down. We all think we are right, but if we all thought we were right, we'd all be dead. CR is like a safe heaven for people finding refuge from the wars of religion and spirituality. A sanctuary. We disarm and put our weapons at the door.
We can all affirm what we believe, assert it, uphold it, argue for it -- but remind ourselves it's only just our dream, our portait of the universe. We're not God and we don't have the whole world in our hands. We have a piece of it -- ourselves. That piece of the world defines truth for us, the truth between us and God. Our identity is valued, appreciated and recognised for what it is and what it means. Our identity is valued as the truth that it is or what it could be or become.
I assert that a universal concept can exist in a subjective reality. The concept is universal and absolute within that subjective reality. The concept and notion of subjective reality, is what I assert to be universal and absolute...within its own subjective reality. Round and round in circles we go with the circular reasoning. The reality we see is really just a perception of reality. In a sense, part of reality is not really reality, but what we make of it -- a perception, an interpretation. Does reality exist? Yes, I believe to some extent. You and I are separate entities. That distinction is real, but we have misunderstandings with each other. There is a limit to what we can define.
If we were to discuss the problem about the Abrahamic faiths, I think you and I might have similar ideas. But I think the important question is whether you think Judaism, Christianity and Islam are the problem, or whether you believe each respective faith has failed to achieve its own Dream, align themselves to their own Ideal, find their own respective Truths? You seem to be suggesting getting rid of them altogether. It would be interesting to hear about your solution . . . which is perhaps what your web site is for.
Dondi
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Frankly, paganprophet, I do not see how you can expect anyone, regardless of which faith, to just suddenly abandon all roots of their religious affiliation in favor of someone who out of the blue proclaims themselves the prophets of all prophets. Do you think that we are that naive to just lay down all the history, revelations, prophesies, tenets, principles, and doctrines that are so inbredded in us and listen to someone who believes he has the answer based on the abandonment of the Abrahamic faiths?
It so happens that I am satisfied with my faith, as a Christian. Why should I change that? Becuase you say so? Give me good reason to. Do you think you are the only one who knows God? Do you think you are the only one who has felt the Presence of God in his life?
I'm open to your prophesies. By that I mean I'm willing to listen to what you have to offer. By each of us here will receive them in light of the religious background of which we are accustomed to. And we will test these prophesies of yours against the scriptures and traditions from which we are based and anchored in. If they are found sound, then we will consider them. But I don't think you are going to find anybody who is going to take them at face value.
It so happens that I am satisfied with my faith, as a Christian. Why should I change that? Becuase you say so? Give me good reason to. Do you think you are the only one who knows God? Do you think you are the only one who has felt the Presence of God in his life?
I'm open to your prophesies. By that I mean I'm willing to listen to what you have to offer. By each of us here will receive them in light of the religious background of which we are accustomed to. And we will test these prophesies of yours against the scriptures and traditions from which we are based and anchored in. If they are found sound, then we will consider them. But I don't think you are going to find anybody who is going to take them at face value.
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paganprophet
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God has given me the information in one hand that destroys the foundations of the Abrahamic religions and in the other hand, a new set of visions and revelations that save and continue the Abrahamic traditions that culmulated in revealing the Spirit of Christ to the world.
There is no other person on earth now who has the knowledge that destroys all authority of the Abrahamic faiths yet to whom God has also given the means to restore spiritual meaning to Jerusalem and the Holy Land. I have set in motion a spiritual means of purifying the Abrahamic religions of ancient men's mistakes by reestablishing spiritual truth at Jerusalem.
Without someone doing this work that shows the influence of a Living God, the Abrahamic religions will eventually go the route of all the rest of the ancient mythologies and dead religions that have also lost their foundational supports.
I hate to be so cryptic but I don't want to unload the information without first having my online book ready to explain where I'm coming from. Next week..if I'm still here...
There is no other person on earth now who has the knowledge that destroys all authority of the Abrahamic faiths yet to whom God has also given the means to restore spiritual meaning to Jerusalem and the Holy Land. I have set in motion a spiritual means of purifying the Abrahamic religions of ancient men's mistakes by reestablishing spiritual truth at Jerusalem.
Without someone doing this work that shows the influence of a Living God, the Abrahamic religions will eventually go the route of all the rest of the ancient mythologies and dead religions that have also lost their foundational supports.
I hate to be so cryptic but I don't want to unload the information without first having my online book ready to explain where I'm coming from. Next week..if I'm still here...
ardenz
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waiting for the news
Its amazing how everyones here seems to be waiting with bated breath for this self proclaimed prophet to finally bring it.
Seriously, I credit most of you with more intelligence than to play these games with this guy. You would almost think he is a celebrity here already.
If he is truly a prophet then I think most of the abrahamic faiths have the same test.
Galatians 1:6-9 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
Jer 14:14 And the Lord said to me, "The prophets prophesy lies in My name. I have not sent them, commanded them, nor spoken to them; they prophesy to you a false vision, divination, a worthless thing, and the deceit of their heart.
1John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
God said: "And if thou say in thine heart, how shall we know the word which the LORD hath NOT spoken? When a PROPHET SPEAKETH IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath NOT spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptyously: thou shalt no be afraid of him," (Deuteronomy 18:21-22).
A true prophet will not take the people away from the WORD of God. He will always be pointing the people to the WORD. They will always point to GOD and the Absolute Authority of the Word of God.
And of course Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy Name? And in the Thy Name have cast out Devils? And in thy Name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
So what are we supposed to do? Test the fruits
Jesus said, "By their fruits ye shall know them" (Matthew 7:15-20). BUT then the Question can be asked, "WHAT fruit?" The Same Bible which warns of false prophets and how to identify them, also tells us how to recognize a True Prophet sent from God. Many times people will focus in on the gifts and miracles produced in the different ministries. BUT according to the Bible a "TRUE Prophet" is not to be vindicated by his gifts and miracles alone. He can have these things and still be a "False Prophet".The Gift and the Miracle aren't false, yet there is an aspect of the man's ministry that can be false.
I also found an interesting site that revealed a lot about "gnostic prophets" if anyone is interested heres the link
Strange Fire:Gnosticism.9
My main thing is to not trust my feelings or emotions regarding the mystical. I go to the Word and let that be my guidebook.
To God be the glory greath things HE hath done.
Seriously, I credit most of you with more intelligence than to play these games with this guy. You would almost think he is a celebrity here already.
If he is truly a prophet then I think most of the abrahamic faiths have the same test.
Galatians 1:6-9 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
Jer 14:14 And the Lord said to me, "The prophets prophesy lies in My name. I have not sent them, commanded them, nor spoken to them; they prophesy to you a false vision, divination, a worthless thing, and the deceit of their heart.
1John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
God said: "And if thou say in thine heart, how shall we know the word which the LORD hath NOT spoken? When a PROPHET SPEAKETH IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath NOT spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptyously: thou shalt no be afraid of him," (Deuteronomy 18:21-22).
A true prophet will not take the people away from the WORD of God. He will always be pointing the people to the WORD. They will always point to GOD and the Absolute Authority of the Word of God.
And of course Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy Name? And in the Thy Name have cast out Devils? And in thy Name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
So what are we supposed to do? Test the fruits
Jesus said, "By their fruits ye shall know them" (Matthew 7:15-20). BUT then the Question can be asked, "WHAT fruit?" The Same Bible which warns of false prophets and how to identify them, also tells us how to recognize a True Prophet sent from God. Many times people will focus in on the gifts and miracles produced in the different ministries. BUT according to the Bible a "TRUE Prophet" is not to be vindicated by his gifts and miracles alone. He can have these things and still be a "False Prophet".The Gift and the Miracle aren't false, yet there is an aspect of the man's ministry that can be false.
I also found an interesting site that revealed a lot about "gnostic prophets" if anyone is interested heres the link
Strange Fire:Gnosticism.9
My main thing is to not trust my feelings or emotions regarding the mystical. I go to the Word and let that be my guidebook.
To God be the glory greath things HE hath done.
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paganprophet
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"If he is truly a prophet then I think most of the abrahamic faiths have the same test.
Galatians 1:6-9 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
Jer 14:14 And the Lord said to me, "The prophets prophesy lies in My name. I have not sent them, commanded them, nor spoken to them; they prophesy to you a false vision, divination, a worthless thing, and the deceit of their heart.
1John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
God said: "And if thou say in thine heart, how shall we know the word which the LORD hath NOT spoken? When a PROPHET SPEAKETH IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath NOT spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptyously: thou shalt no be afraid of him," (Deuteronomy 18:21-22).
A true prophet will not take the people away from the WORD of God. He will always be pointing the people to the WORD. They will always point to GOD and the Absolute Authority of the Word of God."
But FaithfulServant, what happens when the WORD itself is corrupt? It's always the prophet's job to "make straight the path of God" when it's become so twisted and snarled in men's agendas instead of God's that religions lead people into unholy acts of violence, murder and mayhem in the name of the Lord or God or whatever.
You talk of suspicion of false prophets and quote the warnings. Jesus nailed it for believers to tell the difference as you quote too: "by their fruits ye shall know them." That says it all because talks cheap and action speaks louder than words. Has my past prophesy bearing work done anything?
Oh, yeah, some things, 18,100 acres all total of "miraculous" land preservation that happened later at the sites where the new Sign of the Messiah was sanctified. The honoring of the Sign of the Messiah by over 500 Nazareans at Easter in the Basilica of the Annunciation in Nazareth in 2003, the spiritual unification of Old World Holy Land religious tradition with New World Native American spirituality that has happened through prophesy combining two messianic spiritual beings and reality combining families from two worlds, Old and New. But it's not your Hollywood Greatest Story ever told as yet.
This isn't why I'm going public much earlier than anticipated. God's sent me in not only to clarify the right spiritual pathway, (yes, there is one pathway above the rest at prophetic placement moment in time and history--hence the need for a single focus and a single prophet sent), but to "head 'em off at the pass" in American tv lingo,
Why? Because without proof of Divine intervention, or a clear Sign of spiritual contact of God to human beings there is information floating now at the fringes of scholarship but once easily found by everyone will utterly destroy any rational reason for believing in any of the Abrahamic faiths over any primitive superstitious religious belief system based on believing myths as reality.
I'm not saying this would happen overnight. But I do know that this information in the hands of secularists, atheist scientists, anyone with a vendetta against the Church or the Temple or the Mosque will hammer religious leaders in public wherever they can asking them why tell anyone what to believe or do when you yourselves have been so incredibly deceived for so long?
I bring new revelation, news of spiritual revolution, and New Gnosis, Saving Gnosis, salvation by knowledge in a new way, this time saving the whole Abrahamic tradition that culminated in the revelation of the Spirit of Christ in Jesus from falling along with the rest in their End Times of all religious and philosophical paths that do not lead to the Holy One of heaven and Earth.
Gosh, sounds like I'm selling a new religion, doesn't it? Now, now, just read it as if you picked it up as some religious tract off the sidewalk. Didn't see who was handing them out..can't report them for beheading in our Egyptian C.R. forum, can we?
Galatians 1:6-9 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
Jer 14:14 And the Lord said to me, "The prophets prophesy lies in My name. I have not sent them, commanded them, nor spoken to them; they prophesy to you a false vision, divination, a worthless thing, and the deceit of their heart.
1John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
God said: "And if thou say in thine heart, how shall we know the word which the LORD hath NOT spoken? When a PROPHET SPEAKETH IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath NOT spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptyously: thou shalt no be afraid of him," (Deuteronomy 18:21-22).
A true prophet will not take the people away from the WORD of God. He will always be pointing the people to the WORD. They will always point to GOD and the Absolute Authority of the Word of God."
But FaithfulServant, what happens when the WORD itself is corrupt? It's always the prophet's job to "make straight the path of God" when it's become so twisted and snarled in men's agendas instead of God's that religions lead people into unholy acts of violence, murder and mayhem in the name of the Lord or God or whatever.
You talk of suspicion of false prophets and quote the warnings. Jesus nailed it for believers to tell the difference as you quote too: "by their fruits ye shall know them." That says it all because talks cheap and action speaks louder than words. Has my past prophesy bearing work done anything?
Oh, yeah, some things, 18,100 acres all total of "miraculous" land preservation that happened later at the sites where the new Sign of the Messiah was sanctified. The honoring of the Sign of the Messiah by over 500 Nazareans at Easter in the Basilica of the Annunciation in Nazareth in 2003, the spiritual unification of Old World Holy Land religious tradition with New World Native American spirituality that has happened through prophesy combining two messianic spiritual beings and reality combining families from two worlds, Old and New. But it's not your Hollywood Greatest Story ever told as yet.
This isn't why I'm going public much earlier than anticipated. God's sent me in not only to clarify the right spiritual pathway, (yes, there is one pathway above the rest at prophetic placement moment in time and history--hence the need for a single focus and a single prophet sent), but to "head 'em off at the pass" in American tv lingo,
Why? Because without proof of Divine intervention, or a clear Sign of spiritual contact of God to human beings there is information floating now at the fringes of scholarship but once easily found by everyone will utterly destroy any rational reason for believing in any of the Abrahamic faiths over any primitive superstitious religious belief system based on believing myths as reality.
I'm not saying this would happen overnight. But I do know that this information in the hands of secularists, atheist scientists, anyone with a vendetta against the Church or the Temple or the Mosque will hammer religious leaders in public wherever they can asking them why tell anyone what to believe or do when you yourselves have been so incredibly deceived for so long?
I bring new revelation, news of spiritual revolution, and New Gnosis, Saving Gnosis, salvation by knowledge in a new way, this time saving the whole Abrahamic tradition that culminated in the revelation of the Spirit of Christ in Jesus from falling along with the rest in their End Times of all religious and philosophical paths that do not lead to the Holy One of heaven and Earth.
Gosh, sounds like I'm selling a new religion, doesn't it? Now, now, just read it as if you picked it up as some religious tract off the sidewalk. Didn't see who was handing them out..can't report them for beheading in our Egyptian C.R. forum, can we?
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Tao_Equus
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Omg... this is truly a revelation to me!! finding common ground with FS!!!
I think you better spit it out pagan..... Your like some huge big over-perfumed aunty on the phone for too long making a huge deal about how much I'm gona love a christmas present when she visits. I have the feeling your revelation will be some unwearable tank-top too. The way you are hanging this out is pretty childish.
TE
I think you better spit it out pagan..... Your like some huge big over-perfumed aunty on the phone for too long making a huge deal about how much I'm gona love a christmas present when she visits. I have the feeling your revelation will be some unwearable tank-top too. The way you are hanging this out is pretty childish.
TE
Muslimwoman
Coexistence insha'Allah
Muslimwoman
Coexistence insha'Allah
Does your home page start with a quote by Stephen Hawking and end with a conversation between Pooh & Piglet? If so it doesn't sound very Prophetic.
ardenz
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mmmmm
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paganprophet
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My Biomystical Christianity website book is done. Now all I got to do is finish the secular book pages which should be in the next day or two. Again, I apologize for jumping the gun on saying anything "prophetic" before I was ready to show and tell.
Say, Muslimwoman, what did you mean by your post? Hawkings? Pooh?
Say, Muslimwoman, what did you mean by your post? Hawkings? Pooh?
Francis king
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hawking poo?
Dondi
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While we wait patiently and anxiously at this new revelation, what I've read so far has led to new questions.
If this new prophesy promises to be so shattering to the Abrahamic faiths, it make me wonder how God missed out on giving this knowledge out in the first place. And why now? Is God not capable of preserving His revelation through time?
This is similiar to Joseph Smiths claim that all the Protestant and Catholic religions are false and therefore we need a new revelation in the form of golden plates, which had been buried for over a millenia and just happened to fall into Mr. Smiths's hands. But no one else has seen the plates, for they have been conveniently whisked away by the angel Moroni.
You are already violating a basic tenet of witness confirmation, paganprophet. "...at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established." - Deuteronomy 19:15.
This is why this single prophet angle is not going to wash with most of us. How to you propose to confirm your prophesies?
If this new prophesy promises to be so shattering to the Abrahamic faiths, it make me wonder how God missed out on giving this knowledge out in the first place. And why now? Is God not capable of preserving His revelation through time?
This is similiar to Joseph Smiths claim that all the Protestant and Catholic religions are false and therefore we need a new revelation in the form of golden plates, which had been buried for over a millenia and just happened to fall into Mr. Smiths's hands. But no one else has seen the plates, for they have been conveniently whisked away by the angel Moroni.
You are already violating a basic tenet of witness confirmation, paganprophet. "...at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established." - Deuteronomy 19:15.
This is why this single prophet angle is not going to wash with most of us. How to you propose to confirm your prophesies?
bananabrain
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that's right! show us your vegetables!Faithfulservant said:
gosh! how interesting! what is it?
again, how do you know? based on what? show me something corrupt in the Torah!
er... perhaps if you tell me who you used to be, it might jog my memory. we get a lot of self-proclaimed prophets here - it's a bit like that scene in "life of brian" - "and there shall be a great wondering about where things really are, especially those little things made out of sort of basketwork" - "AND THERE SHALL BE NOINE KEYS! NOT ONE, NOT TWO, BUT NOINE!!!". in line with that, i think i shall respond:
he's making it up as he goes along! "G!D has Taken it away" - based on what, exactly?
a safe haven from cranks?
no. what you're doing is far worse.
no, you have a book to sell. hmmmmm.
how do you know it was G!D?
i believe we could survive it.
i suggest we now have an enormous schism based on whether paganprophet is a man or a woman.
show us a sign, master!!
hur, hur, hur.Tao_Equus said:
b'shalom
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