All the religions in the world are the feathers of the same bird

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  1. dattaswami1

    dattaswami1 New Member

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    All the religions in the world are the feathers of the same bird All the religions in the world are the feathers of the same bird i.e., God with different colours. There is only one God and there is only one universe. Similarly the man is also only one. Man should aim that one God and he should belong to all the religions in the universe. He should pick up the diamonds from all the religions and use in his spiritual path. One can have love towards the nationality. Every nation has some physical boundaries. The people who are living in that nation have that nationality. Thus there is a meaning in the nationality because it has physical sense. But in the case of religion and spiritualism there is no physical sense. Every religion belongs to every man. Therefore in religious and spiritual matters all the religions can be used. The human incarnation in every religion announces that He is the universal preacher. The message of Lord Krishna i.e., Bhagavat Gita is for the entire world. The message of Jesus i.e., Bible is for the entire world. The message of Mohammed is for the entire world. So there is no need of conversion of religions. Just like in science the invention of Einstein is useful for the whole world, every religious preaching is for everybody. Different scientists belonging to different countries have discovered different scientific inventions. The subject science contains all these inventions. If any invention is removed the science become discontinuous. Similarly the spiritualism consists of the preaching of the preachers belonging to various countries. The spiritualism must be built up by the preaching of Lord Krishna, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Mahavir etc. Spiritualism means truth like science. Different religions are following their preachers and they have taken the essence of their scriptures into the practice. Such traditional practices are like different experimental parts of Science. The scriptures of different religions are like the different theories in various chapters of science. In science the student does not distinguish the scientist based on his nationality. Similarly in spiritualism one should not have repulsion or attraction to any scripture or tradition in the World. The spiritualism requires divine virtues, which are emphasized in various religions. The firm faith of Islam, the infinite love of Christianity, the tolerance towards other religions of Hinduism, the social service of Bhuddhism and the non violence of Jainism are important virtues of the spiritualism. These are the practical traditional aspects of various religions, which are more precious than those scriptures. Tradition is the most important essence of the scripture. One must praise the firm faith of a Muslim on God associated with strict regularity and discipline. People are worshipping God either in the leisure time or on a holiday. But a Muslim worships God on every day whether it is a holiday or not. He worships God regularly at some intervals of time whether it is leisure or working time. The faith on God and the importance to God supercedes everything and every activity. This aspect is a page in the book of spiritualism. Another page in the book of spiritualism is a tradition of Christianity, which is the infinite love. Bible says “revenge is mine”. The Christians love even their enemies proving that love is infinite. Love is God. God is infinite and so Love is infinite. Such infinite love can only attract the God. The proof of love is sacrifice in service. Christians sacrifice lot of their money for the spiritual works. Their love is so unlimited that they sacrifice money even to the spiritual centers of other religions. Even if some religion is opposing their religion they fund the other religion and this shows their love even to enemies. Their love in the family bonds is very weak. So the love is stored in their hearts without flowing. This concentrated love in the heart flows entirely towards God and so they sacrifice lot of their earnings for the work of God. They do not store the wealth for their children, and they ask their children to earn and live after certain age. Hinduism should be another page. The house of every Hindu contains photos of different forms of God. At the same time they find only one God (Para Brahma) in all those forms of God. They treat the different forms of God as the different dresses of the same actor. This indicates that there is only one God for the entire world and Lord Krishna, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, and Mahavir are only the different dresses of the same God. This brings the brotherly hood of all the human beings in the entire world. Another page must be Buddhism. Buddha kept silent on God because Veda says that God is beyond even imagination. His silence is misunderstood as atheism. He concentrated on the society, which is entire universe. All the human beings in this universe must be uplifted through right knowledge. Buddha means knowledge. Any incarnation of God does the same work. Jainism is another page. They do not kill any living being. The highest justice (Dharma) is non-violence (Ahimsa). God has given life to any living being. What right you have to kill and eat it? You can kill even a human being if he disturbs the peace and justice of a human society. Lord killed evil people in that way. But to kill a living being which does not harm you in any way is the highest sin. God has given sufficient vegetarian food to all the living beings. Science proves today that non-vegetarian food is not good for health. Similarly there are precious traditions of other religions which should be copied on different pages of the book of spiritualism. It should be just like a book of science. Spiritualism is the most important practical line to achieve the grace of the God. As the Science is the universal subject, spiritualism must also be the universal subject. The nations may have physical boundaries but the spiritualism is the single ocean in which all the religions mix like rivers. Every human being in this world must enter this ocean through a river and settle there as a sea fish. The man should not stop the journey while he is in the river. He should follow the journey of the river up to the end where he can find the sea with unlimited boundaries. The man is not moving along with his religion and is becoming stagnant as a river fish only.
     
  2. wil

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    Namaste and welcome dattaswami1

    you da man!

    I enjoy your line of thinking however could I request you hit that enter key a couple times...I'd love some paragraphs so I can digest it in bits!
     
  3. dattaswami1

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    The essence of all the religions is one and the same since the Universal God gives it. The religions are different from each other because the religious leaders who are the human beings create the material that surrounds the essence. The skeleton is one and the same and there is no difference in the skeletons of the human beings. The difference lies only in the external materials covering the skeletons, which are flesh, skin etc., in these external materials differences arose due to deficiencies. Suppose there are two students. One is weak in physics and the other is weak in chemistry.

    Each student mocks the other for the deficiency. Therefore, the deficiency is the root of difference and quarrels in the religions. The reason for the deficiency is the human brain that developed the external body of the spiritual knowledge. Therefore, the spiritual knowledge is the skeleton and the religion is its body. The deficiency in a religion can be removed by taking the merits of the other religions. Every religion has deficiency and the rectification of that deficiency should be from other religion without any ego and jealousy. Do not think that you are without defects. Do not think that your parents have no defects. Do not think that your teachers and preachers do not have defects. Therefore, observe others and take the merits from anybody without prejudice.

    The blind thinking that your nation, your state, your district, your town or village, your caste, your family, your parents, etc., is the best or highest should be eradicated from your brain. Always base your self on your analysis and commonsense that is observed from the examples in the world. Your elders might have polluted the scriptures but this world is the best scripture written by God. This world-scripture is Universal without any color of any religion. You can develop the entire spiritual knowledge by observing this world and the scientific knowledge existing in the various examples or items of the world. Any human being cannot pollute these. You must be scientific and analytical in your belief. The ignorant and clever religious elders always exploit blind belief.
     
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    Interesting! Perhaps the Buddha was silent of God because God is beyond the boundaries of speech.
     
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    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    To make such a statement requires one to be a master of all of them ... and if anyone thinks he has mastered even one of them, let him think again.

    Thomas
     
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    Namaste Thomas,

    To which statement are you referring?
     
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    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi Wil —

    Statements such as:
    "All the religions in the world are the feathers of the same bird" — to make such a statement means one knows content of all the religions in an absolute sense ...

    Thomas
     
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    Ah, the crux of debate and discussion is perception. And I believe if you were asked to stand on the side of defending that quote you'd have no trouble defining a dozen parameters in which the quote would be accurate, no?
     
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    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi Wil —

    Indeed I could. But my first would be this: "The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as 'a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life.' "
    Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 843.

    Thus I would argue that what sets the Catholic Faith apart is that the world's religions seek in 'shadows and images', as St Paul said: "I perceive that in all things you are religious. For passing by, and seeing your idols, I found an altar also, on which was written: To the unknown God. What therefore you worship, without knowing it, that I preach to you."
    Acts 17:22-23.

    Or to quote St John the Theologian:
    Little children, keep yourselves from idols."
    1 John 5:21.

    Pax tecum,

    Thomas
     
  10. Dah-veeth

    Dah-veeth Abeja Maya

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    I LOVE the topic! :D

    "There can be no doubt whatever that the peoples of the world, of whatever race or religion, derive their inspiration from one heavenly Source, and are the subjects of one God. The difference between the ordinances under which they abide should be attributed to the varying requirements and exigencies of the age in which they were revealed. All of them, except a few which are the outcome of human perversity, were ordained of God, and are a reflection of His Will and Purpose." -Baha'u'llah


     
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    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi Dah-veeth —



    In their outward or exoteric forms, of course, in their interiority, no. This has always been understood, in all religious traditions.

    Thomas
     
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    Dah-veeth Abeja Maya

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    I'm not sure what you're saying... it sounds like you're saying it the other way around... that they are inwardly more similar and outwardly more different.
     
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    Dah-veeth Abeja Maya

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    I mean, I'm saying they are inwardly more similar...
     
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    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    And I'm saying that those similarities are themselves the superficial aspects that religions have in common, because man is common to all of them, that's all.

    Thomas
     
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    Namaste Thomas,

    You don't think the divine is common to them all as well?

    They may not all see G!d as the same, but do you deny that G!d was involved in their creation (with man as the intermediary)

    Yes, ego, power, personalities, social economic conditions and existing beliefs of the populace from whence the religion came had influence over not just the man/men who wrote/received the thought but also those who were to receive the teachings.
     
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    Dah-veeth Abeja Maya

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    What I see as common to every world religion is, among other things, this, that all of them have a Mediator between God and man. Christianity has Jesus between the Father and mankind. Islam has Muhammad between God and mankind, a Messenger from God. Judaism has Moses between God and mankind, a Prophet of God. Zoroastrianism has Zoroaster between God and man, Buddhism, the Buddha between the First Cause and man, Hinduism has Krishna between the Creator and man, the Baha'i Faith has Baha'u'llah between God and man. It is the same with every world religion that ever graced the planet.
     
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    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Not with Christianity, however. Jesus Christ is not a human nor an angelic nor an illumined mediator in that sense ... that's what I keep saying — this is not accurate of Christianity, it's a partial view based on Scripture out of context.

    Jesus Christ is God, a crucial distinction which takes Christianity out of this intermediate bracket, so in that sense Christianity is radically different from every other world religion.

    Thomas
     
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    Hi everybody!

    I just came across a good metaphor on religious pluralism.

    The idea is, there is only one "core religion" in the world. Think of it as a house with windows. Each religion in the world today is one of the windows in that house. Looking into each window just gives us a different view of the same thing.

    I like this metaphor.
     
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    Namaste Thomas,

    Except for the fact that Jesus never wrote a word. We have a few short books that have different interpretations of his deeds and words. And then we have a number of more books, mostly from Paul, who was never around Jesus, except for his vision. So as described man is also the intermediary, writing down his perception of what G!d, Jesus, and this religion we call Christianity is.
     
  20. Ciel

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    Thomas,
    Are you honestly saying here that all other religions are a preparation in life for the day one is enlightened in the Gospel of the Catholic Church?
    If so, I read divine arrogance............
    - c -
     

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