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choices choices choices, we can choose to take on board the bible and its teachings or we can turn aside from it . for me i like the way that bible prophecy always comes true . in the past , and even now bible prophecy is being fullfilled. and future prophecies are sure to come true . there is no other book like the bible . ......wisdom from God

Besides history, the Bible contains an abundance of wise sayings and counsel.

Do you embrace all of the bible, or only the parts that fit you, personally?
 

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Do you embrace all of the bible, or only the parts that fit you, personally?
looking to find out what God reqiures of me is what i am after ,not me looking for something to fit my personal beliefs.
 

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choices choices choices, we can choose to take on board the bible and its teachings or we can turn aside from it . for me i like the way that bible prophecy always comes true . in the past , and even now bible prophecy is being fullfilled. and future prophecies are sure to come true . there is no other book like the bible . ......wisdom from God

Besides history, the Bible contains an abundance of wise sayings and counsel.

All those Bible prophecies... like these ones? Or maybe you were talking about these ones?
 

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Man you always seem like your taking a lecture.... lol
why is that? is it because i stick closely to what the bible has to say? not everyone likes to be seeing what the bible has to say , but for me i like to see what the bibles viewpoint is .
 

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why is that? is it because i stick closely to what the bible has to say? not everyone likes to be seeing what the bible has to say , but for me i like to see what the bibles viewpoint is .

Seriously I am not the "sensitive" type.... Not that I don't like seeing what some book says, just how some book has destroyed who -you are- lol.... You're like a slave to some material object.... I know you're now going to paste me a bible quote.... As you always do, well done lol.... Seriously do you not -ever- lay back and just talk about anything but the bible? I as you know have two years or so experience as a JW.... None were as robotic as you, they were all pretty much enslaved by their belife but, they had a pinch of personality..... What's your favourite song Mee? Which isn't found in that brown leather cased song book you are reaching for right this moment.... lol.
 

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looking to find out what God reqiures of me is what i am after ,not me looking for something to fit my personal beliefs.

My apologies.

Permit me to reword.

When it comes to the bible, do you accept all of it as 'gospel', or reject the parts that are like not so paltable?
 

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Anyway, Mee, if your god exists, don't you seem him as like the ultimate terrorist?

What can be more terrorist in manner than to say to someone, believe this or burn in hell.....forever?

Yeah, theists will go on about us all having choice, etc, but that is what it amounts to, ya?

Imagine a nation were the Government said the same, you know, accept this as fact, you have free choice to reject it, but if you do, we will burn you forever.
 

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This is seriously turning into an attack on the bible when it is meant to be about Ouiji boards!!! Come one people control yourselves... PLEASE! Jeez.... You people..... :rolleyes: *coughwww.evilbible.comcough*

It is.

However...it this was prophesised as well. Page 17. Chapter 17.


"And Lo, a bunch of skyvers, who should have better things to do, will use the tree known as log on, and with this log on, they will attack(ith) the Bible".
 

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Seriously do you not -ever- lay back and just talk about anything but the bible?

LOL depends what sort of forum i am on . i am on this one to talk about the bible because it is a religious forum . and the bible is my favourite topic so why not talk about it .

There is a collection of 66 “letters” or writings inspired and provided by the Creator that contain vital information and counsel for us all. That collection of inspired writings is: the Bible
it is the only book on earth that gives a clear account of man’s origin, why his present problems exist and what his future will be. The Bible is, unquestionably, unique.
The Bible’s historical account shows that after the creation in Eden of God’s first human son and daughter, Adam and Eve, a certain powerful angel, moved by vanity and ambition, rebelled against God. Using deception and appealing to selfishness, he succeeded in getting the first human pair to join him in his rebellion. Since he became the enemy of Jehovah, the Creator, he is called Satan, which in Hebrew means “resister”, or “adversary.” (Genesis 3:1-13; Revelation 12:9) He later induced other heavenly sons of God or angels to follow a similar course of rebellion.

Concerning the true condition of the dead, God’s Word says: “As for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5) Can they express either affection or hatred for the living? Again the Bible answers: “Their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished . . . for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol [Hebrew word for the grave, the place to which the dead go].” (Ecclesiastes 9:6, 10) Confirming this, Psalm 146:4 says that man “goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.
 

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Anyway, Mee, if your god exists, don't you seem him as like the ultimate terrorist?

What can be more terrorist in manner than to say to someone, believe this or burn in hell.....forever?

/quote] the God of the bible doesnt burn people in hellfire for ever , it seems you have been listening to innacurate teaching of the bible , finding out what the bible REALLY teaches is the way to go . the question is ,WHAT IS HELL?
Unending Torment or Common Grave, knowing the right answer changes many wrong thoughts about the bible and what it teaches.
 

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god requires me to be his opposite
In fact, to this [course] YOU were called, because even Christ suffered for YOU, leaving YOU a model for YOU to follow his steps closely. I PETER 2;21

(John 13:15) For I set the pattern for YOU, that, just as I did to YOU, YOU should do also..........................


Jesus was taught by his father Jehovah, so following Jesus example means that it is acting like the most high . so listening to Jesus is listening to Jehovah and what he is like .


Therefore Jesus said: “When once YOU have lifted up the Son of man, then YOU will know that I am [he], and that I do nothing of my own initiative; but just as the Father taught me I speak these things John 8;28
 

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If anyone is to talk with the dead, the deceased must actually be alive. They must have immortal souls. Yet the Bible says: “Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7) Therefore, the person himself is a soul. He does not have an immortal soul that lives on after the death of the body. In fact, the Scriptures say: “The soul that is sinning—it itself will die.” (Ezekiel 18:4) Moreover, God’s Word says: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all . . . There is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol,” mankind’s common grave.—Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10.
 

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If anyone is to talk with the dead, the deceased must actually be alive. They must have immortal souls. Yet the Bible says: “Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7) Therefore, the person himself is a soul. He does not have an immortal soul that lives on after the death of the body. In fact, the Scriptures say: “The soul that is sinning—it itself will die.” (Ezekiel 18:4) Moreover, God’s Word says: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all . . . There is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol,” mankind’s common grave.—Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10.

That seems awfully contradictory, Mee. If there are spirits of the dead (whether they are able to speak to the living through something like the Ouija or not) then clearly something of them survives death.

From your Bible-inerrantist perspective, are these spirits of the dead real or not? The quotes you've given and the statements you just made seem to attempt to prove both that they exist and that they do not exist.
 

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For those who are interested, there is an interesting website at Web Ouija that provides a bit of history and further discussion about Ouija or "talking boards." They have a neat gallery showing different boards as sold over the years, starting with the one that began it all in 1891.
 
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